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Buying American Cars What Does It Mean?

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With parts coming from everywhere, does "Buying American" have much meaning anymore? Is quality and price the bottom line?

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#14269 of 18079 Re: While I agree with cannon3 in [uplanderguy] by lemko

Sep 05, 2012 (7:27 am)

Replying to: uplanderguy (Sep 04, 2012 4:41 pm)
He can't say anything on behalf of his Japanese masters lest they pimp-slap him!

#14270 of 18079 Re: While I agree with cannon3 in [uplanderguy] by gagrice

Sep 05, 2012 (8:34 am)

Replying to: uplanderguy (Sep 04, 2012 4:41 pm)
I was not sad to see the Toyota bunch knocked around for their arrogance. Keeping with the subject, is it better to buy a 75% US content Lexus RX350 or a 26% Cadillac SRX? Which feeds the most US workers? Time to rethink this whole GM is American fallacy. They are in debt to US for about $42 billion and cutting jobs every model year. In 2009 the Caddy SRX was 70% US content, now only 26% US content. Does not sound like a company interested in America and its people.

#14271 of 18079 Re: While I agree with cannon3 in [gagrice] by uplanderguy

Sep 06, 2012 (3:22 am)

Replying to: gagrice (Sep 05, 2012 8:34 am)
Gagrice, I'll take your numbers at your word, but they are not typical for GM or foreign makers. The U.S.-built Sonic replaced the Korean-built Aveo, and the N.A. content of the Cruze has increased since its introduction here. It's a 'big picture' thing.
 
I know that as recent as 2011, Malibu transmissions were manufactured in Mexico, but are now manufactured in the U.S.

#14272 of 18079 Re: Self destruction [bpizzuti] by uplanderguy

Sep 06, 2012 (3:38 am)

Replying to: bpizzuti (Sep 02, 2012 3:09 pm)
Incidentally the Ford Focus should be on the list. But I'm sure that one doesn't fit your agenda.
 
Apparently the Focus doesn't fit a good number of people's agenda. It was soundly outsold by the Cruze last month.

#14273 of 18079 Re: Self destruction [uplanderguy] by gagrice

Sep 06, 2012 (9:43 am)

Replying to: uplanderguy (Sep 06, 2012 3:38 am)
The Cruze did increase US Content from 45% in 2011 to 60% in 2012. Cruze had a good month in August. It has a ways to go to outsell the Focus this year. And the Cruze is down 8% vs last year.
 
What is the count between the Cruze and Focus for fleet sales this year?

#14274 of 18079 Re: Self destruction [gagrice] by dieselone

Sep 06, 2012 (9:47 am)

Replying to: gagrice (Sep 06, 2012 9:43 am)
What is the count between the Cruze and Focus for fleet sales this year?
 
IIRC I read somewhere it's in the 20-30% range. The Focus is probably towards 30%. In July the Cruze had virtually zero fleet sales, thus it was a bad month. I'd guess the August sales jump had a healthy fleet percentage.
 
Take out fleet sales and the Civic is by far the sales leader.

#14275 of 18079 Re: Self destruction [dieselone] by gagrice

Sep 06, 2012 (10:07 am)

Replying to: dieselone (Sep 06, 2012 9:47 am)
Just reading an article on what people drive in our capitol. I would think they should be the leaders in buying American. They are far from it.
 
“I saw more Porsches than Chevrolet Cruzes,” he sadly noted.
 
It does seem that a lot of Washington‘s manifest sense of “We’re special” is reflected in vehicle choices: Mercedes, BMW, Audi and Lexus, plus a plethora of minor players, dominate the scene. Cadillac, Lincoln, Buick or Chrysler and other worthy US brands are rare sights indeed.
 
http://www.forbes.com/sites/boblutz/2012/05/31/irritating-the-foreign-cars-of-wa- shingtons-elite/

#14276 of 18079 Re: Self destruction [gagrice] by bpizzuti

Sep 06, 2012 (10:20 am)

Replying to: gagrice (Sep 06, 2012 10:07 am)
Ahh Washington. Perfectly willing to give OUR money to substandard car companies, so long as THEY can buy what they want.

#14277 of 18079 Re: Self destruction [gagrice] by steve_ HOST

Sep 06, 2012 (10:33 am)

Replying to: gagrice (Sep 06, 2012 10:07 am)
Looks like US/Canadian content for the Cruze is up to 60% for the 2012 models. Almost even with the Honda Civic, at 65%. (NHTSA).
 
Acura surprised me; out of six 2012 models, four have 60% or more US/Canadian content.

#14278 of 18079 Re: Self destruction [bpizzuti] by robr2

Sep 06, 2012 (10:33 am)

Replying to: bpizzuti (Sep 06, 2012 10:20 am)
So some low level desk jockey working for the Dept of the Interior should be told to drive a certain brand of vehicle??
 
The important thing is the the vast majority of the publicly owned vehicles in Washington are domestic.

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