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Best new or used vehicle for $30,000

64 messages,  Last post on Dec 10, 2006 at 6:26 PM

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Re: This Needs Two Forums [blane] by qbrozen
Jan 03, 2006 (12:03 pm)
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Replying to: blane (Jan 03, 2006 11:57 am)

there are tons of comparison discussions concerning new car A vs. new car B. And I've seen discussions in the past like "best used car under $x.xx" and the same for new. So its all been done or currently being done. There is nothing wrong with this dicussion's topic as it stands.
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Re: This Needs Two Forums [blane] by calidave
Jan 03, 2006 (12:08 pm)
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Replying to: blane (Jan 03, 2006 11:57 am)

Well, since this is MY thread, and since I WOULD consider a used car as well as a new car at a particular price point, I think we should have ONE forum in which used and new cars are considered. Feel free to make your suggestions, or create your own threads.
 
If there are folks who only like new cars, they should feel free to simply note that preference and then list the cars they suggest. In my experience, this is what people do. (see the $40K thread)
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Re: This Needs Two Forums [calidave] by blane
Jan 03, 2006 (12:22 pm)
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Replying to: calidave (Jan 03, 2006 12:08 pm)

OK, how about these?
 
http://www.hemmings.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/classifieds.cardetail/id/2290448/xf- - a_returnpage/classifieds.carsearch-price1-28000-price2-32000-adtype-forsale-deal- - er-1/
 
http://www.hemmings.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/classifieds.cardetail/id/2295621/xf- - a_returnpage/classifieds.carsearch-price1-28000-price2-32000-adtype-forsale-deal- - er-1/
 
http://www.hemmings.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/classifieds.cardetail/id/2295561/xf- - a_returnpage/classifieds.carsearch-price1-28000-price2-32000-adtype-forsale-deal- - er-1/
 
http://www.hemmings.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/classifieds.cardetail/id/2292127/xf- - a_returnpage/classifieds.carsearch-price1-28000-price2-32000-adtype-forsale-pgnu- - m-2/
 
http://www.hemmings.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/classifieds.cardetail/id/2292210/xf- - a_returnpage/classifieds.carsearch-price1-28000-price2-32000-adtype-forsale-pgnu- - m-2/
 
Any buyers here?
 
Incidently, I owned one of those last ones.
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Re: This Needs Two Forums [blane] by calidave
Jan 03, 2006 (1:05 pm)
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Replying to: blane (Jan 03, 2006 12:22 pm)

good suggestions
 
thanks for being open-minded about the thread
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Re: This Needs Two Forums [calidave] by goodegg
Jan 04, 2006 (3:51 pm)
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Replying to: calidave (Jan 03, 2006 1:05 pm)

With $31K you can get an 06 TL non-navi and call it a day.
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05 Accord EX V6 by jbp20
Jan 05, 2006 (5:42 am)
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I know this isn't exaclty what you guys had in mind in this thread, but I had a price question on an 05 Accord EX-L V6.
18700 miles. Loaded (obviously). Great shape. (few scratches on the inside of the trunk, that's it).
On sale at a Nissan dealer for $23000.
I made an offer of $20,500 OTD, and they finally agreed, if I bought it last night. I said I needed to bring my wife back tonight, and they said OK.
Is that a good price?
I basically tried to figure out the trade in value. Add about 500 + tax, tag and title (1500-2000 in my area).
Sounds like a good deal. But I love to 2nd guess myself.
Thanks.
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Re: 05 Accord EX V6 [jbp20] by qbrozen
Jan 05, 2006 (7:25 am)
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Replying to: jbp20 (Jan 05, 2006 5:42 am)

actually, that's TOO cheap. Meaning you better have this thing checked over carefully by a Honda dealer AND get a carfax on it. You sure its a V6? You sure it has leather? That's a $26k car new. Hondas do not typically depreciate 21% in the first year.
 
ah, ok, i knew this was familiar. Someone had something similar over on the Real-World Trade-In values board in the last couple of days. According to Terry, even an '04 is worth $20k.
rroyce10, "Real-World Trade-In Values" #29258, 2 Jan 2006 4:37 am
 
so, like i said, something might be up with this car. Have it checked over real carefully.
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Re: 05 Accord EX V6 [qbrozen] by jbp20
Jan 05, 2006 (7:58 am)
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Replying to: qbrozen (Jan 05, 2006 7:25 am)

Well that makes me feel good and bad at the same time.
But thank you for the response. Really.
I will of course get a Carfax.
I am relatively new to car buying, will having a Honda dealership take a look at it be a problem. Is that common?
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Re: 05 Accord EX V6 [jbp20] by sweep2002
Jan 05, 2006 (9:00 am)
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Replying to: jbp20 (Jan 05, 2006 7:58 am)

Sorry, don't have an answer to your question as I'm also new to car buying. But I have an addition to your question: I've always been told to get a used car looked at by an indep. mechanic and not the dealership - which is better?
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having your car checked out by qbrozen
Jan 06, 2006 (6:34 am)
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good questions.
 
here's the thing ... you need to be objective in the results they give you. What you want them to tell you is whether its been in an accident and if anything major is wrong.
 
If you go to a honda dealer, there is a chance they will nitpick and give you a laundry list of things that aren't necessarily a problem, but they think you should take care of ... then a salesperson may want to show you a nifty Accord they happen to have on the lot that they feel is in better condition. Of course, they are just trying to steal your business from whoever is trying to sell you this other accord.
 
As far as independent mechanics ... they aren't trying to get your purchase business ... but they may still have other motives. First, you are paying them for an inspection, so sometimes they fall under the spell of feeling they NEED to find things wrong to justify you paying them for this inspection. Second, they just may want to find some things wrong so that you'll buy the car and bring it to them to fix.
 
So, again, you are looking for answers to the major questions. Has it ever been hit and repaired? Are there any oil/tranny/brake/coolant leaks? Are the fluids indicative of a car that was taken care of and the maintenance performed properly and on time? What percentage of life is left on those tires and brakes? (and be cautious on this last one. my lincoln dealer is telling me i need new tires, but when pressed to tell me the life left, they say 40% .... yeah, i'll be replacing those ... in like 2 years.)
 
So, you want an inspection, but you want to be objective in how you interpret the results. Don't let them interpret them for you. Get the hard data and decide for yourself, because their "opinion" can be jaded.
 
For the question of dealer vs indy ... well, if you have a relationship with an indy you trust, there is nothing wrong with that. But given 2 unknown entities (1 dealer and 1 indy), I'd personally chose the dealer. Reason being, obviously, they are much more familiar with the cars they sell and service every day. An indy mechanic, in this case, may never have even seen a newest generation accord in his shop, so he/she might not have a frame of reference to answer some questions. "is this steering lose, or do all new accords feel this way?" "is that bend in the frame supposed to be right there? or is that on all new accords?" etc etc.

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