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Honda Accord, Sedan
#554 of 5530 Re: - [topgun7]
May 01, 2007 (1:29 pm)
I agree 99.99%
I dont agree with the 230hp thing as HP isn't a very important number because most companies record it at an unusable range.
TORQUE is that all important number! Thats why so many people are beginning to switch to diesels. The m5 has 500hp but the E320CDI has 400lb ft of torque and gets 35mpg. Which sounds more appealing to the AVERAGE (non-rockylee j/k) consumer? Not to mention Diesels lower price than regular in some areas.
The Accord is most likely to get the TL's engine. Hondas rarely get new engines before Acuras. The TL has had the same engine since 1995 in the 3.2 TL. Sure this old v6 is ok for the TL but it would be perfect for an accord. The specs of the current accord v6 and acura TL are very similar and shows the 3.2l v6's advantages.
The 3.2l v6 in the TL has to carry more weight and has more power but it has the exact same results as the 3l v6 in the accord. I'm sure honda could make a few changes and bump this up to 265hp and 240lb ft of torque with the same or similar MPG.
As with the Cr-v honda doesn't have to have a v6 more powerful than the competition to win. As long as it stays competitive and refined it will do great. 258hp and 233lb ft of torque will be great for the accord.
#555 of 5530 Re: I would like to see.... [rorr]
May 01, 2007 (3:45 pm)
200# is an estimate of how much ACE will add to the weight on the frame.
I would also like to see a diesel option as well. Ideally I would like to see a diesel hybrid.
I can see the 3.2 or the 3.5 being in the Accord v-6. There are arguments for both engines. I would assume that they will pick the engine that does the least damage to the scale.
A 6spd auto and mt allows Honda to lead the pack for F/E with the new 2008 epa guidelines.
#556 of 5530 what i would like
May 02, 2007 (7:33 am)
a six speed auto
a more powerful 4 cyl (similar to the tsx, but with better fuel economy and no req for premium.)
and a v-6 that will result in passing camry's easily.
A diesel will be great...
but the one thing i would love? A wagon version. Bring it back!!
Honda, it is possible to have a more utilitarian vehicle then all the sedans being offered. We want a hatch that isn't the fit, and a large capacity car that isn't the element. (although i love both those cars!)
#557 of 5530 Re: what i would like [eldaino]
May 02, 2007 (9:21 am)
Honda, it is possible to have a more utilitarian vehicle then all the sedans being offered. We want a hatch that isn't the fit, and a large capacity car that isn't the element.
Your answer is the Mazda6 5-door (hatch) and wagon.
#558 of 5530 Re: what i would like [jeffyscott]
May 02, 2007 (10:47 am)
May 02, 2007 (10:53 am)
Smaller than my Accord and uses as much gas as my Sienna.
Now if they would put a 4-cyl in the Mazda 6 that would make it palatable, but still smaller and less efficient than an Accord wagon would be.
I like wagons (prefer them to sedans), but the Mazda 6 misses the point.
#560 of 5530 Re: - [dudleyr]
May 02, 2007 (11:13 am)
Also I think 2007 is the last year for the 6 Wagon. It seems that wagons are still not selling well enough to justify the cost of a different bodystyle (excluding Subaru and the European makes).
May 02, 2007 (11:26 am)
That is because wagons are not marketed. Subaru markets their wagons and sells 10 for every 1 sedan.
#562 of 5530 Re: - [dudleyr]
May 02, 2007 (12:39 pm)
The closest thing to an Accord wagon is the C-RV. Same 4cyl engine, and built on a car platform. The chances of the Accord wagon making another appearance are very very slim. The C-RV sells like hotcakes.
May 02, 2007 (1:34 pm)
Blame your fellow Americans. I believe that in the rest of the world the 6 does not even have a V6 available in any version of it.
You may not like it but at least tiny Mazda, with a measly 3% of the US market, sells a conventional wagon and hatchback in the US. Even if it is smaller and less efficient than the non-existant Accord wagon.