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Re: Impressions after a test-driving a couple of sedans [dpmeersman] by thegraduate
Jun 12, 2008 (11:12 am)
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Replying to: dpmeersman (Jun 12, 2008 3:58 am)

I'm still not totally sold on Honda's grade logic control. Every morning I stop for a cup of coffee and leaving I have to pass my towns police station. It's on a pretty steep downhill grade and they feel strongly about enforcing the 35 MPH speed limit. With my previous car I would pull out of the parking lot and let gravity get me past the station at the acceptable speed limit. With the new Accord it wants to stay in 3rd gear revving around 2,500 RPM going down the hill barely reaching 35 by the time I arrive at the bottom. I'd rather use the brakes and have the transmission go thru the gears and see the tach around 1,200-1,300 rpm like I used to knowing that the lower the engine tachs less fuel is being consumed. When it's holding a gear like that what is required of the driver to force it to shift up? I've tried giving the accelerator a little stab, but that hasn't worked. Any suggestions?
 
Honda has had this type of transmission since the mid-90s. My 1996 Accord does the same thing; it keeps you from coasting too fast; it also holds third when climbing hills as opposed to hunting between third and fourth.
 
If my 1996 Accord and my 2006 Accord are any window into the GLC transmission, there's not much you can do to get it to shift up except reach level ground.
 
If you get your car into 4th gear before the hill starts, it shouldn't downshift back to third unless you hit the brakes. Otherwise, I've got nothing to offer ya, buddy. I'm sorry; hope my post at least lets you know its normal.
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Re: Impressions after a test-driving a couple of sedans [thegraduate] by ljgbjg
Jun 12, 2008 (1:17 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jun 12, 2008 11:12 am)

I have had a 1997 Accord V6, 2000 Accord V6 and 2004 Accord Coupe V6 and NONE of their GLC transmissions behaved the way the 2008's does. It is harsh and excessive and will even downshift on the highway at 60 MPH to maintain a steady speed when on cruise control. Believe us, it is WAY more active than what you have.
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Grade logic by bug4
Jun 12, 2008 (1:17 pm)
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I have actually had a different experience with grade logic. It constantly engages on a ramp I have to go down on the way to work. It is a gradual and long ramp. I HAVE been able to get the grade logic to shift back up by letting off the brake and tapping the gas. I'm not sure why that hasn't worked for some others. Again, my situation involves a fairly gradual incline - so maybe a steeper incline does more to lock in the grade logic.
 
Also, there was some mention above about preferring to replace brake pads, rather than putting more wear on the transmission. This is undoubtedly true. However, I can relay my experience with my old 98 I4 Accord with manual transmission. I had over 140,000 miles on that car when I sold it - and it had the ORIGINAL brake pads. The reason: I used the hell out of the transmission to brake my speed. I never abused it, but I absolutely used it more than the brakes to help control my speed. With all that work and all those miles, the transmission was bomb-proof and never had a single problem.
 
Have I mentioned how much I liked that 98 Accord I miss it and my new 08 is a lot fancier - but not nearly as flawless!
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Re: Grade logic [bug4] by thegraduate
Jun 12, 2008 (1:23 pm)
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Replying to: bug4 (Jun 12, 2008 1:17 pm)

my situation involves a fairly gradual incline - so maybe a steeper incline does more to lock in the grade logic.
 
That may have a lot to do with it; mine works similarly to what you describe. I should've been more thorough in my description.
 
However, I can rely my experience with my old 98 I4 Accord with manual transmission. I had over 140,000 miles on that car when I sold it - and it had the ORIGINAL brake pads. The reason: I used the hell out of the transmission to brake my speed.
 
My 1996 got 131k out of the front pads, and still has the original shoes on the rear. That was a lot of highway driving obviously, but great nonetheless. I now have over 50,000 miles on the new pads (182k on the car) and have that many miles on the shoes.
 
I used the hell out of the transmission to brake my speed. I never abused it, but I absolutely used it more than the brakes to help control my speed.
 
Could you elaborate? I often use D3 in my 1996 (my 06 Accord is more willing to downshift when braking) to help slow me down, but rarely above 45 mph, and almost never into "2", unless the hill is awfully steep and I don't want my brakes to completely fade if I'm stopping from 70+ mph (such as a steep off-ramp leading to a red light). 98% of stops I just leave it in D4 and let the car do its thing, and always in the '06.
 
After writing all of this I realize it is a little off topic. I'm not sure where it needs to go, though!
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Re: Grade logic [thegraduate] by ljgbjg
Jun 12, 2008 (1:30 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jun 12, 2008 1:23 pm)

I would be a lot more concerned about using an AT as a braking component than a manual. Every time you shift gears in an AT you are using the pump to circulate fluids, and putting strain on the torque converter. Not so with a MT. Just my opinion.
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Re: Grade logic [ljgbjg] by bug4
Jun 12, 2008 (2:10 pm)
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Replying to: ljgbjg (Jun 12, 2008 1:30 pm)

Good point. It does seem that the AT puts so many mechanical processes into the mix. I dearly miss the old days when I simply pushed in the clutch and picked which damn gear I wanted to drive in! I got to control everything from the engine speed to how fast I wanted the transmission to engage and I really was able to minimize wear and tear. I'm not a great driver - but I know I can do a better job than does the AT on my 08 Accord
 
grad - to answer your question --- my 98 was a manual and so I drove it like an 18-wheeler If going above 70, I usually would let off the throttle until I got to 70, then shift into 4th. At about 55, I could shift down to 3rd and at something like 30-35 I would shift into 2nd to slow to about 20mph. Below 20mph or so, I would have to use my brakes since first gear was geared quite low.
 
I still use my gears, at times, to slow my new Accord. But, as ljgbjg noted, it just seems to be a much more mechanically complicated process.
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Accord LX 08 vs Accord LX-P 08 by macno0b
Jun 20, 2008 (12:51 pm)
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The main difference is the Alloy wheels. The Plastic wheels of the LX look terrible. The costs are $1000 different. Is it better (more cost effective) if I get the LX and put in the alloy myself?
 
Thanks
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Re: Accord LX 08 vs Accord LX-P 08 [macno0b] by accordguy0325
Jun 21, 2008 (12:41 pm)
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Replying to: macno0b (Jun 20, 2008 12:51 pm)

Buying Honda manufactured alloys would prolly run you anywhere between 800 to 2000 dollars, in this regard you'd be better off going with the LXP b/c you'd also get the power drivers seat and a couple other little things...
 
In terms of saving money however, I think your best bet is to buy the LX, and get after market alloys- a decent set can be had for prolly 300-600 depending on style/etc...
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Re: Accord LX 08 vs Accord LX-P 08 [accordguy0325] by furrycute
Jun 22, 2008 (6:00 am)
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Replying to: accordguy0325 (Jun 21, 2008 12:41 pm)

I did a pretty comparison between the LX and the LX-P when I was shopping for my car. I finally ended up with the LX-P.
 
Differences,
 
1) Steel wheels vs. alloy wheels. The plastic wheel covers on the LX are horrible. Thin and can be easily dented/bent. I can't believe that Honda chose those horrible wheel covers for an Accord.
 
2) Non powered vs. powered driver's seat. One caveat, the powered driver's seat on the LX-P does not come with lumbar support. The lumbar support is only found the EX and up trim levels.
 
3) Engine immobilizer vs. engine immobilizer plus alarm.
 
As far as I can tell, those are the only differences between the LX and the LX-P. Are these differences worth $1,000? Myself, I really hated those flimsy plastic wheel covers, so went with the LX-P.
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Re: Accord LX 08 vs Accord LX-P 08 [furrycute] by cstiles
Jun 22, 2008 (8:35 am)
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Replying to: furrycute (Jun 22, 2008 6:00 am)

IMO, the basic questions are.....(1) Is $1,000 that much of a hit on your pocket book, and (2) do you like the look of the alloys? If the $1,000 isn't going to break you, and if you like the look of the wheels (regardless of whether you hate the plastic wheel covers on the LX), then the LX-P is a good value and smart decision. At resale time, you'll get a portion of that $1,000 back, and the LX-P is going to be more desirable than a plain jane LX to someone looking to buy your used car.
 
If you were to add alloys and an alarm system on an after market basis, you're likely going to spend $1,000. Plus you get the power driver's seat with the LX-P. An alarm system and power seat are desirable features for most buyers.
 
As long as you don't dislike the look of the OEM alloys, the LX-P is a smart purchase, in my opinion.

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