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#1720 of 5530 Re: The 08 Accord Coupe: [blufz1]
Aug 14, 2007 (10:51 am)
I actually think that 1998-2002 Accord has aged very well. But, having 2 million of those on the roads over last ten years isn’t going to make them look “fresh”. .
That car had typical Honda-ness to it, good details but not overly aggressive as an overall package. One thing that it was lacking was a proper grill. It also seems to have started the front fender to tail lamp “sharp” crease that has become a norm now. At the time, Honda used the side sills to add some character too (note those on first generation CL and 1998-02 Accord). Simple details but perhaps also overlooked by the masses.
And the interior design was great, perfect symmetry with interesting details that showcase Honda’s simple but effective approach. Just take note of that little notch on preset “2” button and you get an idea. And those buttons/knobs have maintained their appearance after ten years and 179K miles of use. They still “click” with the same precision like they did when the car had about 4 miles on it.
I liked the interior design of the 2003+ Accord. It addressed a few weaknesses (below the HVAC) from previous generation, although the beltline went up. This took away the open/airy feel that the 1998-02 delivered. Exterior styling was lost, somewhere between being daring and conservative. A nice element of surprise was hiding the hood to fender gap using the crease on the hood. There were some subtle styling cues that gave it a muscular look on the side and from some angles, but it was the rear (and to some extent the grill, or lack of) that took away all the styling credibility.
The “width” of the rear got exaggerated by the shape of the tail lamp which also made it look like the whole rear end was sagging while the top of the trunk wanted to go up, especially with the white strip (which changed the appearance a bit for good with all-red tail lamp in 2005). Also didn’t help was the way the tail lamps tapered on the side. It didn’t match the edge of the head lamp, and also exaggerated the wider look. A minor dip at the top of the trunk lid on either side of the license plate didn’t help either.
2008 Accord is pleasing to my eyes, quite a bit along the lines of 1998-2002 Accord. And this time, complete with a proper grill. Sedan could have used a bit of aggressiveness with the tail lamp treatment, to bring back the old styling element but with an “edge” (1988 Prelude to 1998 Accord to 2008 Accord would have made perfect sense). And the rear end actually looks like an evolution of the 2006-2007 Accord too, except that the brake lamp is back behind the rear glass, and triangular tail lamps have given way to quads. Love the coupe. One weakness is the gap between the bumper and the hood. Honda needs good finishers. They start right, get most of it right and leave an element or two to be desired. Why didn’t they just let the hood shut right over the grill?
I can bet the pictures don’t do justice to these cars at all. In fact, recently, I went back and looked at pictures of 2004 TL concept and was surprised to see how much more impressive the car looks in flesh than in this picture. In fact, I think 2004 TL is arguably the best looking Acura, right alongside the 1992-1995 Legend, two cars that have near perfect execution of styling elements.
But as always, I’m really curious to see what the interior is like. That always gets my attention, as do the drive trains and driving experience. Honda has always found a way to impress me with Accords, perfectly packaged. Now only if they actually took advantage of the chassis and added more flavor to it, along the lines of an “Si” trim.
Aug 14, 2007 (12:08 pm)
while not offensive, is no looker to me.
the cv7's and the generation previous to it, are so much nicer looking.
a nice 97 accord special edition v-6. that car was a looker. the taillights are gorgeous.
i'm suprised that so many fans of this accord were displeased by the tailights of the gen that followed after it. to me, that generation just took this cars rear and made it smile a bit more.
interesting to look at, but i prefer the new led style lights.
Aug 14, 2007 (12:10 pm)
There wasn't a Special Edition V6 Accord in 1997, was there?
The only one I'm aware of was the Special Edition 4-cylinder, which added CD, Alloys, woodgrain trim, and a moonroof to the LX model 4-cyl (130hp version, no VTEC).
#1723 of 5530 Re: 98-02 [thegraduate]
Aug 14, 2007 (12:13 pm)
i thought there was? it may have been a 96? i work at the bank, and have seen some of that gen accord with special edition badges, with v-6 badges. i'll look it up.
Grad, you understand the love that is to be had for this gen accord right?
Aug 14, 2007 (12:15 pm)
Oh yes I do... I currently love my own '96!
Let me know if you find anything about that SE V6. I've never been one to doubt ya my friend, but I don't remember ANYTHING like that in the previous generation V6s.
#1725 of 5530 Re: 98-02 [thegraduate]
Aug 14, 2007 (12:19 pm)
just checked up on it man; you know your accords!
i was confusing it with the 'se' trim level, in which there was a v-6 offered. It usually camed totally decked out with an auto tranny and leather interior/wrapped wheel.
the actual 'special edition' had some ex features but featured the lx spec engine.
#1726 of 5530 Re: 98-02 [eldaino]
Aug 14, 2007 (12:51 pm)
Up until 2007, I don't think Honda has offered SE-V6 model. There was a value package model added to 1996 lineup (between DX and LX) and it was replaced by a special edition coupe/sedan model in 1997 to fit between LX and EX trims.
Speaking of styling though, I see 1994-1997 as a conceptual predecessor to 2004+ TL.
#1727 of 5530 Re: 98-02 [robertsmx]
Aug 14, 2007 (1:03 pm)
There was a value package model added to 1996 lineup (between DX and LX)
Correct robertsmx. The Value Package of this generation can be seen by its body-colored door handles but 14" wheels (DX models had black handles and 14"s, LX had body colored handles AND 15"s).
And yes, eldiaino, I know my Accords. I guess it is because my parents have had a 90, 92, 93, 00, 01, 03, and 05, on top of my 96 and 06!
#1728 of 5530 Re: The 08 Accord Coupe: [robertsmx]
Aug 14, 2007 (1:05 pm)
Agree. My 02 feels like new w/84k on it. The beige leather interior seems much more open and airy compared the the last gen. I do prefer the exterior of the 06-07's to my 02. I do wonder if that trunk tail light assembly on the 06-07's will rattle after a few hundred slams. The new Accord does appear more upright and it is larger so the interior should be fine. 7 more days.
#1729 of 5530 Re: The 08 Accord Coupe: [blufz1]
Aug 14, 2007 (1:06 pm)
Well, for what its worth (and that isnt much) I have no rattles out of mine, after 23k miles, and it has the LEDs in the trunk.