Last post on Mar 31, 2011 at 9:21 AM
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Honda Accord, Sedan
#1561 of 5530 Re: info [biker4]
Jul 27, 2007 (8:27 am)
1994-97 Accord DX/LX didn't get VTEC, only EX did. With MY1998, DX didn't have it, LX/EX did. With MY2003, all got i-VTEC.
So, it is possible that Honda will put A-VTEC only on EX, while lesser trims get i-VTEC.
If EX does get 200 HP, I'm wondering what next TSX will be like. It currently gets 205 HP from 2.4/i-VTEC compared to 166 HP from current Accord 2.4 courtesy of higher compression and VTEC applied at both ends (Accord has it only at the intake).
Perhaps that difference will continue with the next TSX, and with all that plus premium grade gasoline, it could deliver 210-220 HP, unless Acura suddenly decided to make turbo standard (unlikely they will put V6 in TSX).
#1562 of 5530 Re: Toyota would agree with you [drfill]
Jul 27, 2007 (6:55 pm)
Unfortunately Toyota has got some transmission issues it needs to work completely out before I would consider them again without some trepidation.
The problems with the auto tranny surge/lag are very real and a major no buy in my opinion.
My 07 Highlander has had a few little tranny burps with only 800 miles on it. I have fingers crossed that it will stay mild and occasional, but I tell ya I feel real bad for the Camry folks with the almost unlivable sounding issue along that line.
I also, have the oil sludge debacle in the back of my mind with the Highlander, will really have to keep on top of oil changes with it unlike my Accord who will be more forgiving Im sure. ( I aim for 4-5000 miles intervals )
I had a Camry once and it was a very nice car (a little boring and I have always like Accord looks over it even now cept for the droopy rear end Accords) and its a very comfortable set up too. The Highlander is silky smooth and very nicely done, but Im nervous I tell ya....Toyota is losing trust.
#1563 of 5530 I wish you all the best
Jul 27, 2007 (7:20 pm)
But these are still very isolated incidents, and far from a widespread issue.
Toyota is aware that they maybe just a top-level company, and not clearly superior, at this present time, and are performing countermeasures to satisfy their own quality standards.
This should start with the 2008 Highlander. The increased demand for their products, and the demand on their top personnel, is causing growing pains.
I think you'll be alright.
#1564 of 5530 Re: Toyota would agree with you [chrisxxx]
Jul 27, 2007 (7:54 pm)
Just use Synthetic oil and don't worry too much re the sludge.
#1565 of 5530 Re: Toyota would agree with you [chrisxxx]
Jul 30, 2007 (5:58 am)
Neither of the engines in the '07 Highlander were part of the oil sludge issue that has tarnished Toyota's reputation. Aside from that, any engine can potentially have sludge issues, mitigated by proper maintenance.
Honda isn't without blemish either; transmission issues as well, and VCM on the current gen Ody has been far from flawless... I'd figure all of that would be well worked out before the Accord debuts with the technology, though, as it sells in much higher volume and the margin for error could have significantly more pronounced negative results.
#1567 of 5530 62.8 MPG for new Accord 2.2 Diesel
Jul 30, 2007 (11:29 pm)
That was for a UK spec Accord. It converts to 52.3 using US gallons.
The new US Accord is bigger and heavier and may have a larger version of the engine, so I could see it ending up in the 45 MPG range (or even less) when it finally gets here especially under the new 2008+ mileage calculations.
Now some are talking about calendar year 2010 as a 2011 model instead of 2009 mentioned earlier.
#1569 of 5530 Re: Lock Cylinder Problems [user777]
Jul 31, 2007 (5:48 am)
But, this isn't an Odyssey forum. Did you mean to post this in the 2008 Accord forum?
I post things in the wrong forums sometimes, just curious about your post.
#1570 of 5530 Re: Lock Cylinder Problems [thegraduate]
Jul 31, 2007 (8:22 am)
Wrong Forum. Thanks!