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#1427 of 5530 Re: There is NEWS! [qbrozen]
by carguy58
Jul 18, 2007 (10:06 am)
"as far as this whole business about "dramatic styling"... no, the civic sedan is not dramatic. Sorry. The coupe, yes, to a degree. I think why most people call Honda's styling bland is because their cars never make people go "Wow!! that's hot!!" The only cars they've ever done that with are the NSX and S2000."
Well I think the 2004+ TL does have a little wow factor to it and its not bland looking. What about the 1994-2001 Integra? The 1994-2001 Integra was not bland at all, ditto the 1992-1996 Prelude as well. The 1992-1995 Civic Coupe I wouldn;t exactly call bland either. The 1991-1995 Acura Legend Coupe was far from bland looking.
As far as the whole 2003 Accord redesign I disliked it very heavily and as one of Honda younger buyers(well Acura's anyway) I was looking for Honda to go more after an athletic look with the 03 model like say to evoltionize the 03 Accord styling after the mid 90's Accord styling and instead we got the polarizing look with the 03 model. I will say the 03-04 Accord's look alot less polorazing to me than when they were first debut on the market in late 2002.
#1428 of 5530 Accord Styling
by mfletou1
Jul 18, 2007 (10:51 am)
I think some may have overanalyzed my remarks--people have always gotten very defensive on here. All I was saying is that I expected Honda to go a little more aggressive with the '08 Accord based on what the concept coupe looked like and what Toyota and Nissan did with their mid-size redesigns.
I would describe the '08 Accord sedan as handsome, but it is a very bland re-design. Its certainly attractive enough, but the Camry and Altima were bolder re-designs that did some different things with styling, and the '08 Accord does not.
If I had not been in the market for a hybrid, I probably would have bought an Accord EX V6 last year so I'm not a "hater," but at the same time, I also like the Camry's styling and own a Camry Hybrid. The TCH in particular with the all-chorme grill and LED tailights. I'm not an SE fan.
Obviously, styling is subjective, but in response to one of those above comments that essentially said "who cares how many Camry's are sold?" well, for one thing, its an indicator that those that dislike the Camry's styling are probably in a distinct minority (and before you bring up fleet sales, they're substantially down this year from what I understand, and Camry sales are so strong that I doubt they're making much of a difference). A few growing pains aside, the '07 Camry launch is one of the most successful redesigns in recent history, judged solely on how much metal is being moved and what the average transaction price is.
I'm sure the '08 Accord launch will be successful, also, but the car just seems a little conservative to me. Not that I wouldn't buy one, but...its rather Sonata-esque.
#1429 of 5530 My view on 08 Accord:
by carguy58
Jul 18, 2007 (10:54 am)
The coupe looks good and the front of it is very bold looking but the Sedan model again what happened? The sedan: It looks the 06 Sonata back end except with part of the talights chopped off on each side on the back end of the car. Honda flopped gain with the back end for the 2nd straight generation of Accord. I thought Honda wouldn;t blow this again with the 2nd generation of Accord: all this missing from making the sedan a 400K seller again is a distinctive back end due to the fact the 03 sedan both stytled front end and back end were just a mess and didn;t match up with each other.
I will take a good look at the Coupe at the autoshow that I will be going to later this year and see if it has enough headroom for my needs due to the fact that the 03 Accord Coupe there was a not enough headroom for my needs when compared to my 02 Acura CL.
Man I think the Accord sedan has everything going for it except for the back end styling.
#1430 of 5530 Re: My view on 08 Accord: [carguy58]
by maddog11
Jul 18, 2007 (11:08 am)
From the spyshots taken on Cape Cod I think the 2008 Accord Sedan looks great. It is handsome and classy in appearance. While the design overall is slightly conservative, the front end is agressive. I can see why some think it resembles the Sonata but to me it looks more like a cross between the Acura TL and the 5 series BMW. I was interested in the coupe but the latest spyshots have thinking about perhaps getting the sedan. I am anxious to see some better photographs of the coupe.
#1431 of 5530 Re: Accord Styling [mfletou1]
by carguy58
Jul 18, 2007 (11:09 am)
"I think some may have overanalyzed my remarks--people have always gotten very defensive on here. All I was saying is that I expected Honda to go a little more aggressive with the '08 Accord based on what the concept coupe looked like and what Toyota and Nissan did with their mid-size redesigns."
"I would describe the '08 Accord sedan as handsome, but it is a very bland re-design. Its certainly attractive enough, but the Camry and Altima were bolder re-designs that did some different things with styling, and the '08 Accord does not."
Now I agree with you after seeing the Accord final 08 pictures of the redesign of the sedan I did expect like you for Honda to be more agressive in the redesign of the 08 Accord like Toyota was with the Camry. The 07 Altima is just an evolution of the 02-06 Altima so to me on the exterior its not a really drastic change to me for that car exterior design wise.
"A few growing pains aside, the '07 Camry launch is one of the most successful redesigns in recent history, judged solely on how much metal is being moved and what the average transaction price is."
I agree the 07 Camry is one of the most successful redesigns in recent history juding by the sales of it. As far as transaction prices go even though the 07 Camry redesign has been successful for Toyota its not selling like its for MSRP here at least I don't think it is anyway.
"I'm sure the '08 Accord launch will be successful, also, but the car just seems a little conservative to me. Not that I wouldn't buy one, but...its rather Sonata-esque."
Yeah your right the 08 Accord is Sonata-esque looking especially with the back end.
#1432 of 5530 Re: My view on 08 Accord: [maddog11]
by carguy58
Jul 18, 2007 (11:21 am)
"From the spyshots taken on Cape Cod I think the 2008 Accord Sedan looks great. It is handsome and classy in appearance. While the design overall is slightly conservative, the front end is agressive."
I agree the sedan does looks handsome and classy and the front end is agressive but the back end needs a little pizzaz to it in my opinion. What worries me for Honda is there is more competion in this category than the Camry: I mean you got a new Mazda 6 coming out as well as a new Chevy Malibu too. A new Mitsu Galant will be coming out in 09 or 2010 as well and probably a heavily refreshed 08 Chrysler Sebring I suspect as well. The competition does and will not stand still.
#1433 of 5530 Re: My view on 08 Accord: [carguy58]
by maddog11
Jul 18, 2007 (11:33 am)
I like the back end of the 2008 Accord Sedan. To me it evokes the rear of 1986-89 Accords, one of Honda's best designs. I also think the design looks more expensive than what an Accord sells for. I really don't think the 2007 Camry is anything in the bold department, except for the front end - which is getting less attractive by the day. Also the Camry's proportions look off to me; the car looks longer and narrower than it really is. The 2007 Altima is less conservative than the 2008 Accord but to me it is not nearly as attractive; it is also essentially the same design it has been since what about 2001(?) - it has just been freshened twice.
#1434 of 5530 Re: There is NEWS! [carguy58]
by qbrozen
Jul 18, 2007 (12:00 pm)
I agree, all of those cars you listed were attractive. But bold and exciting? Not so much. There is a big difference between "not bland" and "wow!" I think you know when something is bold when half the crowd is repulsed.
#1435 of 5530 Re: There is NEWS! [eldaino]
by dolfan1
Jul 18, 2007 (3:21 pm)
I never meant to sound like Honda's designs were ultra conservative, I only suggested they took a slightly more conservative stance than the competition IMO. This stuff is all subjective anyway. Personally, I have no problem with the new Accord, whereas I don't like certain things about the Camry. In the end, styling is nowhere near the top of my list as far as priorities. I'm far more concerned with workmanship and reliability.
#1436 of 5530 Re: There is NEWS! [dolfan1]
by elroy5
Jul 18, 2007 (4:28 pm)
I would rather my car be "plain/bland" than be "offensive". To me Nissan's cars are too over-the-edge, and do not age well. I love Accords, and will buy one (when I need a new car) no matter what it looks like.