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Chevy Silverado and GMC Sierra vs Dodge Ram

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What is this discussion about? Chevrolet Silverado 1500, Dodge Ram Pickup 1500, Chevrolet Silverado 2500, Dodge Ram Pickup 2500, Truck


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Re: Dodge vs. GMC [nam92] by dustyk
Apr 17, 2007 (4:56 pm)
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Replying to: nam92 (Apr 17, 2007 9:16 am)

The new GM light duty truck platform is getting rave reviews and if you go over to the Siverado/Sierra forms its a real lovefest. They're reported to be very smooth and powerful, much better assembled, and a joy to drive.
 
That being said, they should be. As a previous fleet manager I have thought for years that the GM light duty pickups were the most over rated trucks on the market. Reliability has been down right poor in the past and GM has usually been the toughest to get relieve from in warranty cases. Things are different now and GM needs to make friends. Maybe they've improved design and quality. I think its way too early to tell, but one of our GM techs have already commented about 4L70E and 4L80E transmission problems.
 
The full-size Dodge RAM has been a sturdy and reliable performer for my company, especially in the last few years. We've had no engine, transmission, or drive train issues. In fact, no major issues at all which is remarkable when you have 44 of them. The 2002-2004s seemed to have more electrical problems, but our recent purchases are absent any problems in this area. The 4.7 engine is bullet proof and so is the new 6-speed 545RFE transmission.
 
In actual practice I think you'll find that the fuel consumption between the 4.7 and the 5.7 Hemi in a four-wheel drive might be negligible. This, of course, is all very dependent on how you drive. I do think that both the 4.7 and 5.7 will give you better gas mileage than the old LA360 (5.9) and a careful driver will probably realize slightly better MPG with the 4.7.
 
Good luck and best regards,
Dusty
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Re: Dodge vs. GMC [dustyk] by nam92
Apr 28, 2007 (5:52 pm)
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Replying to: dustyk (Apr 17, 2007 4:56 pm)

I made the purchase and picked the Ram Quad Cab 4x4. The GMC was nice, but the Ram body style and the reliability factor made my decision. I always told myself that I would not buy a vehicle after the 1st year or 2 of a major redesign. I've heard the horror stories of major redesigns and wanted the reliability since I plan on keeping the truck for about 10 years. Truck comes in June. Can't wait.
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Re: Dodge vs. GMC [nam92] by coontie57
Apr 28, 2007 (7:01 pm)
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Replying to: nam92 (Apr 28, 2007 5:52 pm)

I have an 06 Chevy... what changes did they make... MAJOR changes that is.
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Re: Dodge vs. GMC [nam92] by tex10
Apr 29, 2007 (5:29 am)
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Replying to: nam92 (Apr 17, 2007 9:16 am)

do you know any thing about the new 6.7 cummins. my bose bought a new 6.4 power stroke and its not what wanted from ford. not to happy with them.
 
i need before we oder anther truck
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Re: Dodge vs. GMC [coontie57] by kcram HOST
Apr 29, 2007 (5:41 pm)
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Replying to: coontie57 (Apr 28, 2007 7:01 pm)

The Silverado and Sierra were completely redesigned for 2007 - they share nothing but the powertrain.
 
kcram - Pickups Host
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Re: Your observations vs someone else's [tex10] by gdog6
May 01, 2007 (5:25 pm)
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Replying to: tex10 (Apr 11, 2007 7:06 pm)

dodge trucks are reliable long lasting and have to (according to dodge) go thru the hardiest pre-market test of any truck.
 
the interiors are nice but still not as good as some others
 
but they have loads of power
 
they beat gm and ford to a pulp
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Re: Your observations vs someone else's [gdog6] by tex10
May 01, 2007 (5:54 pm)
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Replying to: gdog6 (May 01, 2007 5:25 pm)

The Ford King Ranch is nice Truck but it dont mean any thing when tne for wheel drive gos out before 10,000 miles
 
 
i think Cummins nose some thing about egines becuase i saw one in a pete the other day and it was hualing
 
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Re: Your observations vs someone else's [tex10] by richierich5
Mar 30, 2008 (7:39 pm)
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Replying to: tex10 (May 01, 2007 5:54 pm)

Well here is my 2 cents. I dont know too much about trucks such as in depth specs and have not owned one but am going to purchase one soon. I recently worked at a ford dealership for a few months and left because my heart was not in it. Dont get me wrong, the trucks are very cool and fun to drive around with customers. But i could not wrap my heart around the ford product. the mustangs are cool i guess but id only pay half the price to have one. eleanor is the only car on the lot that i would look at and i still though "crap" in my mind. The trucks are good rigs but i have a verdict after reading through all these threads. Fords break down and dont last. I do like the super duty trucks but for example, the f-350 has 8 radiators. in 5 years from now i dont wanna spend thousands of dollars replacing those bad boys. I know that if u want a beast u need to replace shit down the road but i just dont trust ford. the cars on the lot are crap, dont even go for one, ur wasting ur money, go to volkswagon or audi, much more quality and design. i dont know who the homo is desgining fords new products but he must be the most boring person in the world to talk to. cheap suits for cheap suits wearers i guess. back to trucks, its seems the no one is knocking gmc these days and i could understand why, the denalis and sierras i never hear gripes about. and people lets not argue about stupid things for page after page such as a bolt or handling. go freaking drive it and do the testing urself. what feels good to you? its ur freaking money. dont worry about lap testing and ventilated breaks. u can get those on anything! the new ford f-150s are nice but come on, how boring is it to drive on. i mean, u just have to be so bland to seek one out and be excited about it day after day, especially the consensus that rams and others are so much more powerful. i understand the little features ford goes to make better and its appreciated. but the inside is so one dimensional and boring. i know this is somewhat of a rant, but i think there are too many ford people who just wont throw the towel in and are basing their beliefs because ford has number one selling truck. sure the taurus was number one selling car, and that made ford great. but would u buy one? now these macho truck guys are hiding behind number 1 truck? doesnt mean an f-150 is better than the dodge or chevy? my rant is nearing an end here, but i just had to say after working at ford for so long, i had no desire to sell a ford and felt the company prided itself over stupid features rather than saying, we have the baddest truck out. Thanks!
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Re: Your observations vs someone else's [richierich5] by obyone
Mar 30, 2008 (10:20 pm)
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Replying to: richierich5 (Mar 30, 2008 7:39 pm)

Yo!! I think you posted in the wrong topic. Last I heard the Dodge Ram was NOT made by Ford. LMAO!!
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07 1500 16K miles rusting already by scoopyex
Apr 11, 2008 (8:19 pm)
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Don't rule out Dodge as your next truck as a result of seeing this post. I've done a little bit of research into this problem, and the only truck I've found so far matching my problem is isolated to Toyota Tundras (yes they have a chronic problem with body panels rusting prematurely) and nothing related to Dodge. so far the problem I am having is purely isolated to my truck which I happen to LOVE and it will not deter me from buying another Dodge Ram in the future.
 
 Anyhow, several weeks ago I took my truck, an 07 SLT 4.7 4X2 short bed 16K miles to the car wash. After every wash I normally wipe the truck down with a new microfiber towel top to bottom. The last time I washed the truck, I noticed an orangy/yellowy substance on the center section of the passenger door. Since I bought the truck last March, I've taken to long trips with it to PA and NC. I though maybe some time during one of those trips I might have accidently driven over some yellow paint or something when there was some road remarking going on. I looked around the truck some more and didn't really find any of the material any place else. Well, seeing as it was on the surface (lots of it) I decided to see if it would scrape off and a few of the tiny bits did. I didn't want to believe what it was then as I don't want to believe what it is now.. but sadly, the truth is, the material oozing out of pinhole size nooks in my paint is rust, and it's gotten worse since. I thought it was isolated to the passenger door, and did some more looking around.. sure enuff.. I'm finding the same problem on the hood, the drivers door, the tailgate, and both sides of the bed. My truck is brite white and now it's got acne. Has anybody else had this problem and what has Chrysler done about it? it seems to me that just sanding the panels down and repainting them is just going to result in it happening again later down the road, since once metal starts to rust, it's pretty much a death sentence for it. When I bought the truck a year ago, I intended on keeping it for five to ten years because that's the kind of life expectancy I was counting on. at this rate the body is going to look like swiss cheese by next year if it's not fixed.
 
 Althought these pictures are not from my truck. this is exactly what I'm seeing on my body panels (nice litte kick in the ribs for the Tundra owners to)
 
http://www.tundratalk.net/forums/tundra-problems-dealer-service/62928-more-rust.- html

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