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Chevrolet Silverado 1500, Dodge Ram Pickup 1500, Chevrolet Silverado 2500, Dodge Ram Pickup 2500, Truck
#172 of 211 Re: '06 Cummins TRX4 [02ramman]
Feb 27, 2007 (3:58 pm)
OK, I'll check the manual. Thank you!!!!
#173 of 211 Re: Made the choice [rockylee]
Feb 27, 2007 (6:01 pm)
and yet they still will build the best truck...go figure...
#174 of 211 Re: Chevy Arrogance & the Old Double Standard [jreagan]
Feb 28, 2007 (9:03 pm)
Ah, yes. Someone is ignorant because they stated something you don't like to hear. Well your arrogant assertion aside, it's a fact. I'm not the only one who has made the observation that GM trucks pop holes sooner than others. My last Chevy had pin holes at 5 1/2 years.
"GM treats there sheetmetal (dipping, galvanized box panels, etc) and the other's don't."
While you're practicing your typical Chevy moral superiority and condescending attitude you will find that you are categorically and totally incorrect that other truck manufacturers don't treat their steel. They do. Dodge uses differentially coated sheet metal on all surfaces. Rocker panels, box inner panels and floor are galvanized (Chrysler was the first to do this in 1960, by the way) and body panels are phosphate treated, primer dipped and color coat dipped. Ford's process is similar except for color coat dipping.
#175 of 211 Re: Chevy Arrogance & the Old Double Standard [dustyk]
Mar 01, 2007 (7:22 am)
Wonder why my 1991 Chevy 1500 series has no rust. I BELIEVE there is salt on the beaches of WNC near the Atlantic Ocean.. I drove it 4 years to Buxton, NC and ONTO the beach each day for a week at a time. Our group of fishermen drive different vehicles each year and we have never had rusty problems... Most drive Chevs... More comfterable ride. We have been going now for 15 years each November... Maybe there is just no rust producing salt present in November.
Did anyone ever figure out why Ziebart went out of business. They told me... Chevy's are DIPPED JUST LIKE THE GUY SAID.
#176 of 211 Re: Chevy Arrogance & the Old Double Standard [coontie57]
Mar 01, 2007 (3:38 pm)
theres a big big difference between driving a truck onto a ocean beach each day and a truck spending 150-180 straight days and nights in a freezing wet salt and chemical environment where corosive water gets into every nooks and crannies of the body.
bY the way, dusty didn't say that chevies weren't dipped, he just said that other trucks are too.
#177 of 211 Re: Chevy Arrogance & the Old Double Standard [morganv]
Mar 01, 2007 (4:14 pm)
Understand!! There are sure a lot of rusty Toyotas running around WNC we use lots of snow some years..
#178 of 211 Re: Chevy Arrogance & the Old Double Standard [dustyk]
Mar 01, 2007 (7:38 pm)
Well, I live in Minnesota, where they use more salt and have the longest winters of anywhere in the country. My 1989 GMC didn't rust until it was 11 yrs old and my 2000 GMC still looks brand new, not a door ding, let alone any rust. And I can tell you for a FACT that Dodge's rust much faster here in Minnesota.
So, you are the arrogant one, not me.
#179 of 211 Re: Chevy Arrogance & the Old Double Standard [morganv]
Mar 01, 2007 (9:09 pm)
I have lived in San Diego for 35 years and have owned a Chevy of one sort or another for all of that time. I have a 15 year old Astro Van with not a single bit of rust on any body panel. The issue of salt exposure near the beach is a factor of the ocean spray/mist that works its way into every crany , the complete car inside and out. If you are one mile from the beach and leave your car out overnight, the car is covered with a salty film, yet with chevys... no rust!
The main issue here is with the salt exposure the other important factor is temperature. The warmer it is , the faster rust will occur when salt is present. In an area where it is 32 degrees, the chemical reaction does not react as quickly as it does at 60 or 70 degrees, thus a higher incident of rust " at the beach ". The final analysis is : If you knock a mans truck, your knocking him... better knock his wife , he's less likely toget p.o.'ed. To each his own, I like Chevys the other guy may not... enjoy what you like.
#180 of 211 Your observations vs someone else's
by kcram HOST
Mar 02, 2007 (12:06 am)
Just because you see something where you are does not mean it's gospel everywhere. As for salt and rust, different states use different salt treatments for roads. Brand X trucks may do great in the winter in one area of the country and lousy in another.
It's anecdotal, folks... so let's put away the "arrogant" comments.
kcram - Pickups Host
#181 of 211 Re: Your observations vs someone else's [kcram]
Mar 31, 2007 (5:32 am)
Here in the north east sodium chloride is poured onto the roads before, during, and after winter storms. it eats galvanized body parts like it's going out of style.
Regardless of who makes the truck pushing your big hood emblem around, salt is salt, and road deicers are road deicers, and will eventually eat them all. What matters most is in how you take care of your ride prior to and after a winter mess that's left on the roads. You can also count on how your body parts were stamped and what the humidity level was during the painting process of the metals that make up your big expensive grill emblem pushers. It all effects the life of your ride. Those are the facts.