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What is this discussion about? Chevrolet Silverado 1500, Dodge Ram Pickup 1500, Chevrolet Silverado 2500, Dodge Ram Pickup 2500, Truck


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Re: The old double standard by dustyk
Feb 26, 2007 (7:03 pm)
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Replying to: rockylee (Feb 25, 2007 8:11 pm)

First, give me evidence that Honda is now number four. Don't think so. But regardless, does the loss of market share indicate product quality? If so, how much market share has GM lost in 30 years? It may mean poor(er) management or limited product, but it does not necessarily mean anything else.
 
Why is sales position seem so important to Chevy truck lovers?
 
"I guess all vehicles will rus if one never washes them. Maybe the story's of the Chevy's rusting is one where the owner never washed it ? Obviously the Dodges are getting a few more baths but that won't help when the body's panels are falling off."
 
Ya know, that must explain it! All those rusty Chevies got poor treatment. Yes, that's it! Those darn ole Dodge, Ford, and Toyota owners must be out there at midnight every night washing all that salt and grud off.
 
Something tells me that this paltry theory won't work the other way 'round to explain any faults with a Dodge, Ford, Toyota, Nissan or any other truck, for that matter.
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Re: The old double standard [dustyk] by coontie57
Feb 26, 2007 (8:28 pm)
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Replying to: dustyk (Feb 26, 2007 7:03 pm)

I have seen enough rusty TOY cars ... give it up..
 
Reclaimed spam cans rust too.
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Re: The old double standard [coontie57] by rockylee
Feb 26, 2007 (8:51 pm)
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Replying to: coontie57 (Feb 26, 2007 8:28 pm)

Finally someone comes to but this arguement to bed.
 
Rocky
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Re: The old double standard [rockylee] by jreagan
Feb 27, 2007 (4:53 am)
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Replying to: rockylee (Feb 26, 2007 8:51 pm)

Not much of an argument. To think GM's rust quicker than the other's is just plain ignorant. GM treats there sheetmetal (dipping, galvanized box panels, etc) and the other's don't.
Toyota's are the WORST when it comes to rust, ok, maybe Honda's are a little worse, but not much. Dodge's aren't anything to brag about either. Here in Minnesota, I see ALOT more rusty Dodge's than either Ford or GM. Dodge's top priority is making "Pretty" vehicles, not quality ones.
ie: I looked at a co-workers new Dodge a few years back and I noticed that the wheel well above the front tire was nicely coated with a black coating. Looked very nice!! Then I stuck my head in there (because the wheel wells are cavernous) and noticed they ONLY sprayed the area that is visible above the tire. The entire area behind the tire was completely BARE!!! It's like they did it with the tires on. Why? to save a little material? What a JOKE!!!
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Re: Made the choice [morganv] by coontie57
Feb 27, 2007 (5:45 am)
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Replying to: morganv (Feb 25, 2007 5:51 pm)

the first time I had it to the beach of NC was Nov 91.. lots of salt on the beach... it snowed bunches in 93 (24" of snow and tons of salt) and again in 95 ...Its been to the beach 3 more times... Buxton, NC>.. out NO rust.. as of when I saw it last a month ago.... me and the 06 Duramax are fishing in FL without salt on the roads.. No rust on the 06 either.
 
Boy that big girl pulls the 11500 lb camper nice.. Try hooking up a Nissan or Toy truck to it and lets have some fun..
 
It was funny but a month ago I was driving without the camper ... just cruising along at 65mph on I 40 and here comes a Toy truck pulling a silver Airstream.. it came up behind me and passed and all of a sudden I started passing it on the right ... the LITTE BITTY hill had stopped it... the wife wanted to know why I was passing on the right but all I was doing was cruising with the cruise on... 65mph and steady... but not the toy truck... WAKE up America... toys are for kids!!
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Re: '06 Cummins TRX4 [02ramman] by awsomediesel
Feb 27, 2007 (2:58 pm)
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Replying to: 02ramman (Feb 24, 2007 10:52 am)

OK, I'll check the manual. Thank you!!!!
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Re: Made the choice [rockylee] by redram1
Feb 27, 2007 (5:01 pm)
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Replying to: rockylee (Feb 25, 2007 8:11 pm)

and yet they still will build the best truck...go figure...
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Re: Chevy Arrogance & the Old Double Standard [jreagan] by dustyk
Feb 28, 2007 (8:03 pm)
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Replying to: jreagan (Feb 27, 2007 4:53 am)

Ah, yes. Someone is ignorant because they stated something you don't like to hear. Well your arrogant assertion aside, it's a fact. I'm not the only one who has made the observation that GM trucks pop holes sooner than others. My last Chevy had pin holes at 5 1/2 years.
 
"GM treats there sheetmetal (dipping, galvanized box panels, etc) and the other's don't."
 
While you're practicing your typical Chevy moral superiority and condescending attitude you will find that you are categorically and totally incorrect that other truck manufacturers don't treat their steel. They do. Dodge uses differentially coated sheet metal on all surfaces. Rocker panels, box inner panels and floor are galvanized (Chrysler was the first to do this in 1960, by the way) and body panels are phosphate treated, primer dipped and color coat dipped. Ford's process is similar except for color coat dipping.
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Re: Chevy Arrogance & the Old Double Standard [dustyk] by coontie57
Mar 01, 2007 (6:22 am)
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Replying to: dustyk (Feb 28, 2007 8:03 pm)

Wonder why my 1991 Chevy 1500 series has no rust. I BELIEVE there is salt on the beaches of WNC near the Atlantic Ocean.. I drove it 4 years to Buxton, NC and ONTO the beach each day for a week at a time. Our group of fishermen drive different vehicles each year and we have never had rusty problems... Most drive Chevs... More comfterable ride. We have been going now for 15 years each November... Maybe there is just no rust producing salt present in November.
 
Did anyone ever figure out why Ziebart went out of business. They told me... Chevy's are DIPPED JUST LIKE THE GUY SAID.
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Re: Chevy Arrogance & the Old Double Standard [coontie57] by morganv
Mar 01, 2007 (2:38 pm)
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Replying to: coontie57 (Mar 01, 2007 6:22 am)

theres a big big difference between driving a truck onto a ocean beach each day and a truck spending 150-180 straight days and nights in a freezing wet salt and chemical environment where corosive water gets into every nooks and crannies of the body.
 
bY the way, dusty didn't say that chevies weren't dipped, he just said that other trucks are too.
 
morgan

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