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Chevrolet Silverado 1500, Dodge Ram Pickup 1500, Chevrolet Silverado 2500, Dodge Ram Pickup 2500, Truck
Feb 25, 2007 (7:29 pm)
My father has a 1998' Silverado Z-71 with over 250K on it. He has Zero rust. I guess all vehicles will rus if one never washes them. Maybe the story's of the Chevy's rusting is one where the owner never washed it ? Obviously the Dodges are getting a few more baths but that won't help when the body's panels are falling off.
J/K
I did buy a 96' Dodge Ram a couple of summers ago. I think we've put 5-6K on it. I do like dodges but this truck sure has nickled and dime us to death. Hopefully once it gets all the way fixed I will not have to worry about fixing it again it for a long-time.
Rocky
#163 of 211 Re: Made the choice [morganv]
by jreagan
Feb 25, 2007 (7:30 pm)
And something tells me the anti dodge stories are going to be deeper than minnesota snow.
Huh?
#164 of 211 Re: Made the choice [morganv]
by dustyk
Feb 25, 2007 (7:43 pm)
Morgan, Morgan, Morgan. How dare you see things differently than the self-perpetuated myth of GM superiority. You are not supposed to criticize GM products. It's heresy. It just can't be true that something else is as good or better.
You know, if that company was as perfect as GM worshippers try to imply with their anecdota reports of perfect machinery, why are they in so much trouble? As Toyota keeps creeping forward, GM will have their hardcore buyers...for a while.
Dusty
#165 of 211 Re: Made the choice [dustyk]
by jreagan
Feb 25, 2007 (7:53 pm)
GM perfect? Not by a long shot, but still light years ahead of Toyota. Toyota would LOVE to be where GM is at in the truck segment. But, it'll never happen, GM has gotten there "stuff" together and will keep getting better.
#166 of 211 Re: Made the choice [dustyk]
by rockylee
Feb 25, 2007 (9:11 pm)
You know, if that company was as perfect as GM worshippers try to imply with their anecdota reports of perfect machinery, why are they in so much trouble? As Toyota keeps creeping forward, GM will have their hardcore buyers...for a while.
Where is Dodge at now ? What 5th when they use to be #3 less than a decade ago.
If this keeps up Hyundai and Nissan will make them 8th
#1 GM
#2 Toyota
#3 Ford
#4 Honda
#5 DCX
Rocky
#167 of 211 Re: The old double standard
by dustyk
Feb 26, 2007 (8:03 pm)
First, give me evidence that Honda is now number four. Don't think so. But regardless, does the loss of market share indicate product quality? If so, how much market share has GM lost in 30 years? It may mean poor(er) management or limited product, but it does not necessarily mean anything else.
Why is sales position seem so important to Chevy truck lovers?
"I guess all vehicles will rus if one never washes them. Maybe the story's of the Chevy's rusting is one where the owner never washed it ? Obviously the Dodges are getting a few more baths but that won't help when the body's panels are falling off."
Ya know, that must explain it! All those rusty Chevies got poor treatment. Yes, that's it! Those darn ole Dodge, Ford, and Toyota owners must be out there at midnight every night washing all that salt and grud off.
Something tells me that this paltry theory won't work the other way 'round to explain any faults with a Dodge, Ford, Toyota, Nissan or any other truck, for that matter.
#168 of 211 Re: The old double standard [dustyk]
by coontie57
Feb 26, 2007 (9:28 pm)
I have seen enough rusty TOY cars ... give it up..
Reclaimed spam cans rust too.
#169 of 211 Re: The old double standard [coontie57]
by rockylee
Feb 26, 2007 (9:51 pm)
Finally someone comes to but this arguement to bed.
Rocky
#170 of 211 Re: The old double standard [rockylee]
by jreagan
Feb 27, 2007 (5:53 am)
Not much of an argument. To think GM's rust quicker than the other's is just plain ignorant. GM treats there sheetmetal (dipping, galvanized box panels, etc) and the other's don't.
Toyota's are the WORST when it comes to rust, ok, maybe Honda's are a little worse, but not much. Dodge's aren't anything to brag about either. Here in Minnesota, I see ALOT more rusty Dodge's than either Ford or GM. Dodge's top priority is making "Pretty" vehicles, not quality ones.
ie: I looked at a co-workers new Dodge a few years back and I noticed that the wheel well above the front tire was nicely coated with a black coating. Looked very nice!! Then I stuck my head in there (because the wheel wells are cavernous) and noticed they ONLY sprayed the area that is visible above the tire. The entire area behind the tire was completely BARE!!! It's like they did it with the tires on. Why? to save a little material? What a JOKE!!!
#171 of 211 Re: Made the choice [morganv]
by coontie57
Feb 27, 2007 (6:45 am)
the first time I had it to the beach of NC was Nov 91.. lots of salt on the beach... it snowed bunches in 93 (24" of snow and tons of salt) and again in 95 ...Its been to the beach 3 more times... Buxton, NC>.. out NO rust.. as of when I saw it last a month ago.... me and the 06 Duramax are fishing in FL without salt on the roads.. No rust on the 06 either.
Boy that big girl pulls the 11500 lb camper nice.. Try hooking up a Nissan or Toy truck to it and lets have some fun..
It was funny but a month ago I was driving without the camper ... just cruising along at 65mph on I 40 and here comes a Toy truck pulling a silver Airstream.. it came up behind me and passed and all of a sudden I started passing it on the right ... the LITTE BITTY hill had stopped it... the wife wanted to know why I was passing on the right but all I was doing was cruising with the cruise on... 65mph and steady... but not the toy truck... WAKE up America... toys are for kids!!