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Chevy Silverado and GMC Sierra vs Dodge Ram

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What is this discussion about? Chevrolet Silverado 1500, Dodge Ram Pickup 1500, Chevrolet Silverado 2500, Dodge Ram Pickup 2500, Truck


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Re: Made the choice [dustyk] by jreagan
Feb 25, 2007 (7:36 am)
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Replying to: dustyk (Feb 25, 2007 7:10 am)

Then why do the GM's have the lowest "Overall Cost of Ownership"? This takes into account sales price, resale, fuel costs, maintenance and other associated costs.
 
As for rust, I had my 1989 GMC for 9 years and my 2000 GMC for the past 7-1/2. NO signs of any rust yet and I live in snowy, salty Minnesota.
 
Ya know what? I am not even going to get into this discussion comparing Dodges to GM's. There is NO comparison. BTW, How's Dodge doing these days?
 
Dodge....Ptooey You could GIVE me one and I wouldn't drive it.
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Re: Made the choice [jreagan] by dustyk
Feb 25, 2007 (10:25 am)
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Replying to: jreagan (Feb 25, 2007 7:36 am)

By the way, how's GM doing nowadays? How much did they lose in 2006? How are all the American car companies doing? And if GM is so very, very good, and clever and clean and righteous, and Dodge is so very, very bad, why would GM want to buy the company? And who says GMs have the lowest cost of ownership? That's funny. In the past 25 years I see no fleet evidence of it.
 
I could trade anecdotal snipets all day and it wouldn't prove a thing. But I'll tell you what, being in the fleet management business for eleven years I've learned to detect the superiority in GM flag wavers. Unfortunately, its based on self-proclaimed myths.
 
Although our GM products have been sour notes for many years, maybe the new GMT900 platform will finally live up to the past 30 years of exaggerated claims by the hyper-religious GM following.
 
As to advising us that you'd never drive a Dodge if given one, it proves the severity of your bias. I might drive a GM truck in the future, although now that Toyota's in the full size fray I suspect they'll dominate eventually just on quality and reliability alone.
 
In the mean time I'd take a Dodge...or a Ford, or a Titan...or a Tundra. I have greater faith in them at the moment than a GM based on past history.
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Re: Made the choice [dustyk] by jreagan
Feb 25, 2007 (11:00 am)
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Replying to: dustyk (Feb 25, 2007 10:25 am)

Better than Dodge (and Chrysler in general). Since when do "lesser" companies buy out "better" companies (or parts of them even)? Soon, you may not be able to choose a Ram over a Chevy/GMC, they may not exist!!!
As for lowest cost of ownership, I just read it in a magazine article the other day. I read so many articles in mags and online, I don't recall which one, but I read it, I know it, and I don't have to prove it to you.
 
My bias against Chrysler products is based on previous experience and experiences of people I know. Am I a diehard GM fan? yeah, I guess so. But I have nothing against Ford and I would buy one under the right circumstances and be a proud owner of it. Dodge on the other hand? Not a chance!!!
My past experience with my last 2 GM's gives me NO reason to consider changing loyalties. My 89 and my 2000 both were awesome trucks that NEVER gave me ANY trouble. Not one!!! Never broke down and/or left me stranded. Never had any warranty issues. Only money I spent was routine maintenance (brakes, tires, etc). Oh, and couple of VERY minor recall items. None of them left me without a vehicle. The were taken care of "on the spot" when I brought it in.
Until GM lets me down, they have my business and my loyalty.
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Re: Made the choice [jreagan] by dustyk
Feb 25, 2007 (11:42 am)
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Replying to: jreagan (Feb 25, 2007 11:00 am)

Tsk, tsk, tsk. Aren't we a little touchy. You know something else I've noticed. GM lovers love to knock the other guys metal, but can't take heat coming back.
 
Well, my last two GMs were garbage. Like another GM worshipper said recently, you are among the lucky few.
 
And if you think GM is really doing any better, I think you're fooling yourself.
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Re: Made the choice [dustyk] by chrmdome
Feb 25, 2007 (1:00 pm)
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Replying to: dustyk (Feb 25, 2007 11:42 am)

Greetings:
 
IMO, whatever that is worth. I've had a 2002 Chevy Tahoe for 5 years... great vehicle. Will pick up my 2007 Silverado in 3 to 4 weeks. I had a friend that bought a brand new Jeep Cherokee , the top of the line model, brought it home and the second he put it into reverse, it locked ( the transmission ) , seems that the previous years transmissions were used in the new years models, they were " leftovers " and they didn't exactly fit! Presently, Mercedes is trying to dump Chrysler. At a recent meeting, the CEO of Chrysler was forced by a journalist ,into admitting that he was making the company's balance sheet look more attractive by not counting vehicles in the factories lots that were not shipped. Well, in the final analysis , we either love the truck or hate it. With all the poblems Chrysler has had with honesty and the way they do business, I find myself hating them and through personal experience loving Chevy. As we all realize... this happens to all of us with regard to the vehicle we love...so....
buy what you love and enjoy
 
Chromedome
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Re: Made the choice [chrmdome] by morganv
Feb 25, 2007 (3:50 pm)
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Replying to: chrmdome (Feb 25, 2007 1:00 pm)

thats good on your tahoe, my father's ownd Chevys all his life and he loves em just like some of you guys. but hes had some real lousy trucks over the years. hIs last chevy had the engine and transmision replaced in the 5 yrs he had it. and rust! dustys right about gm trucks rusting. their terrible. my fathers 98 has got no door bottoms and the back seat is falling through the floor.
 
fortunat;ly we did't have any preconceived bias against dodge. our three have been super trucks. two of them have never been back to the dealer for anything. our first one had the instrument cluster replaced by Dodge. but my dad's chevy had that problem too. i guess we make decisiuons based on personal experience and the exprience of others. our neighbors have had excellent results from Dodge and so have we. we'll never go back to ford, that's for sure and based on what we see chevys no better. good luck with your truck.
 
morgan
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Re: Made the choice [morganv] by jreagan
Feb 25, 2007 (4:11 pm)
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Replying to: morganv (Feb 25, 2007 3:50 pm)

So, what are you gonna do when GM buys part/all of Dodge and eliminates the Ram?
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Re: Made the choice [rockylee] by kcram HOST
Feb 25, 2007 (4:43 pm)
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Replying to: rockylee (Feb 24, 2007 10:00 pm)

However most farmers in my area own GMC or Chevy Duramax 3/4-1 tons because they are very fuel efficient, use only 6 quarts of oil,
 
Duramax oil requirement is 10 quarts, not 6.
 
kcram - Pickups Host
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Re: Made the choice [kcram] by coontie57
Feb 25, 2007 (5:27 pm)
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Replying to: kcram (Feb 25, 2007 4:43 pm)

I am surprised up in these posts about the rust through with GM products... In addition to my 06 Duramax I also have a 1991 Chev 1500 series with 4x4 ... I have had that to the Outer Banks of NC at least 4 times and drive in the snows of WNC..WE DRIVE ON THE BEACH.... Not a bit of rust.. 168K miles... Unfortunately its only a 4.3L.. way underpowered.
 
Wierd... rust?
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Re: Made the choice [jreagan] by morganv
Feb 25, 2007 (5:44 pm)
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Replying to: jreagan (Feb 25, 2007 4:11 pm)

well if that happens wel'l keep the RAms for as long as we can, then buy a toyota.
 
morgan

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