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You are in the Honda Civic
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Honda Civic, Mazda MAZDA3, Sedan
#1322 of 1341 Re: $2200 for bad A/C [willyty]
Jan 19, 2008 (6:29 am)
I'm sure the Mazda 3 is a winner but it can't come close to the Civic in economy and cost of ownership
I think you hit a nerve with Mazda fans and owners here. To say that Mazda3 can't come close to Civic in economy and cost of ownership is a bit inacurate. Will the Civic get better fuel economy. Yes, but not by much. According to CR (February 2008), Honda Civic gets 31 mpg overall, and the Mazda3 i gets 30 mpg overall. If you opt for the bigger 2.3 Mazda, you get added performance.
Repair records show the Mazda3 has been very reliable. Do you have any data that shows the the Mazda3 "can't come close" to the Civic in terms of "true cost of ownership"?
I have a Mazda6, with the 2.3L motor, and I have 40K with no visits to the shop except for routine maintenance
bought my 07 Civic EX with the intention of taking advantage of the economy, headroom (I'm 6'5"), resale value, reliability and overall "fun".
It seems as if you made the right choice for you. Can't blame you for that. However, if you are to keep your Civic past 100K ,150Kmiles, how much is it really worth? Not much. Would it be worth thousands more then the Mazda3? Highly doubt it. If you try to sell it with that type of mileage, you usually get the scum of the earth looking to buy it, since thats all they can afford.
#1323 of 1341 civic vs the 3 and more
Jan 19, 2008 (7:06 am)
Last tank was 43.8 mpg in 08 civic lx at nearly perfect epa conditions near orlando fl......55 mph and now get to work in almost record time with less stress..so, I don't think I will change anytime soon...08 is a bit better than the 03 civvic lx I had which was a very very good car.....btw, doubt the mileage?? I had a prius 02 in which I consistently got 55 mpg plus at or close to speed limit...so it can be done.....
Mazda not as quiet or good economy..BUT....excellent quality..japanese made.....
can not fault the choice!!
haiti, indonesia, brazil,afghanistan....personal experience and in the news.....nissan ,toyota and jeep 4wd are about all you see in the roughest conditions in the world..or in TRUE wilderness and not suburbia.....
#1324 of 1341 08 Mazda3 vs. 09 Lancer GTS
May 09, 2008 (8:23 pm)
Granted both of these cars are not up to par with the reliabilities of the Civic or Corolla but I feel like getting a car that will stand out (although i might regret it in the long run when my wallet gets hit hard with gas prices). I think I can get either car for about the same price with similar options. Any thoughts ?
#1325 of 1341 Re: 08 Mazda3 vs. 09 Lancer GTS [azr4el]
Jun 05, 2008 (7:16 pm)
Not sure about the Mitsubishi as they haven't had excellent reliability in a while, but Consumer Reports puts the Mazda 3 in the best reliability category which should be very comparable to a Civic or Corolla. CR doesn't have enough data to rate the reliability of the Lancer yet.
People seem to just blindly assume other manufacturers can't have a car equal in reliability to a Honda or Toyota.
#1326 of 1341 Re: 08 Mazda3 vs. 09 Lancer GTS [bamacar]
Jun 06, 2008 (6:26 am)
CR doesn't have enough data to rate the Corolla for reliability, either. In their July issue they declined to put "Recommended" on the Corolla, since it's a new design. I think CR learned something from their experience with the 2007 Camry V6.
#1327 of 1341 Re: 08 Mazda3 vs. 09 Lancer GTS [backy]
Jun 06, 2008 (6:30 am)
The Corolla is a new design?
#1328 of 1341 Re: 08 Mazda3 vs. 09 Lancer GTS [thegraduate]
Jun 06, 2008 (6:35 am)
For 2009, yes. New exterior, interior, suspension, and 1.8L engine--all different from the 2003-8 Corolla.
#1329 of 1341 Re: 08 Mazda3 vs. 09 Lancer GTS [backy]
Jun 06, 2008 (6:50 am)
Give me some credit, backy, I know that. I may have been a little tongue-in-cheek with that one.
I must admit, I knew the 1.8L had a small power bump, but didn't know it was really "different." It sure sounded similar to the old Corolla when riding in a Scion xD.
#1330 of 1341 Re: 08 Mazda3 vs. 09 Lancer GTS [thegraduate]
Jun 06, 2008 (7:34 am)
Toyota claims the 1.8L is "all new." You can take it up with them if you don't agree.
Anyway, back to the topic.... was just in my local Mazda dealer for some service on my MPV. Sat in the 2008 Mazda3i Touring VE. Very sharp car, about $18,150 with AT. A sales rep asked me how I liked it. I told him I'd like it a lot better if it had ESC. (I could have also told him the rear seat is a big tight, but I decided not to get into a lengthy discussion with him.) He said the Mazda3s has ESC. I replied that I liked the 3i for its FE and price, and didn't need the additional power of the 3s. He said, "It's all about choices, isn't it?" Yes, it is. So while I like a lot of things about the Civic and Mazda3, with the Civic having a slight advantage overall because of its exceptional crash test scores for the class, neither is my top choice in this class.
#1331 of 1341 Pure Driving Fun
Jun 06, 2008 (4:10 pm)
The Mazda 3s has this nailed, a real blast to drive. Plenty of power when needed while displaying buttoned down road manners in the twisties. I look forward to driving the wife's 3s after getting out of my Civic for the true exhilaration the 3s provides. Love the Civic for my everyday economical driving but when I feel the need for speed, it's the 3s hands down. Planning a trip to Orlando in August to secure housing for my middle girl who will be an intern at Epcot for six months starting in January, and have already told the wife I want to take her Mazda on the drive up. The impeccable road handling coupled with the power of the 2.3 engine make this a car that begs to be driven on the turnpike...fast! Having four wheel disc brakes makes for competent stopping power in all situations.
Glad we have both cars for my driving Dr. Jekyll/Mr. Hyde persona. Haven't really enjoyed driving since my truck accident 3 years ago but am finally getting back my love of driving. It'll be nice to have the three and a half hour drive up to Orlando on the wide open turnpike and the Mazda 3s is just the car to do it in. We tossed around the idea of renting a car but decided it best to just drive the 3 instead. Can spend an extra day there for the same $ we'd have spent on the week rental.