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Honda Civic vs Mazda3

1333 messages,  Last post on Jun 06, 2008 at 5:37 PM

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What is this discussion about? Honda Civic, Mazda MAZDA3, Sedan


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Re: $2200 for bad A/C [aviboy97] by eldaino
Jul 25, 2007 (11:57 am)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Jul 25, 2007 11:03 am)

1st thing: honda was a hair behind, so its practically a moot point.
 
2nd thing: i think comparing 2 brands that are usually thought of as better than average with regards to reliability and to have either one called junk by an owner/fan of the other is silly.
 
so i kinda disagree with c's comments as well as the honda ones. both are good cars.
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Re: $2200 for bad A/C [cz75] by eldaino
Jul 25, 2007 (12:03 pm)
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Replying to: cz75 (Jul 24, 2007 2:24 pm)

i will agree with this.
 
come one guys, most car reviews that favor the car NEVER
 
EVER
 
EVER
 
EVER take into consideration long term reliability. (sometimes a honda review will throw it in or mention resale value but thats about it.)
 
and yes i know that the 3 has gotten consistent good reviews in later years...but then again they are testing a NEW car right? not just re-using an older tester again?
 
in fact, i can't think of anyone who has had their 3 in a long term fleet...if there is a site i'd love to read up on it.
 
i'm NOT arguing the 3 is a bad car at all, i'm just saying that the concept of reliability issues coming up during the early miles of the car regardless of year wont show what long term reliability is, so no one, not a honda or mazda guy, can go by that.
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Re: $2200 for bad A/C [sssfegy] by eldaino
Jul 25, 2007 (12:08 pm)
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Replying to: sssfegy (Jul 25, 2007 8:25 am)

why are you bringing in the speed 3 and si into this?
 
nothing wrong with an underdog...in fact, most people agree that the si actually handles BETTER than the mazda, and i know a few edmunds and c/d tests put certain grip and slalom numbers on par if not better than the 3. and the shifter is worlds better on the civic than on the speed 3.
 
Tq and acceleration? yeah you have your winner...but you don't have anything new or typcial of the brand: anyone can turbo a large engine and excpect good acceleration.
  
 
Cz has no need to brag in the civic forums about mazda 3's having a/c problems, enough people do it here.
 
didn't understand the comment about enjoying one's si and not thinking its a civic...is that suppossed to be like derogatory? its a type of civic, so i don't see how your comment makes any sense at all.
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Re: $2200 for bad A/C [eldaino] by sssfegy
Jul 25, 2007 (3:03 pm)
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Replying to: eldaino (Jul 25, 2007 12:08 pm)

Why don't you get familliar with the forums? Cz states he owns an si and he could not wait to report a problem on a friend's 3!(jea..)!
"its a type of civic"hint: It's ugggggly! It's a Japanese Saturn! Made out of plastic
I don't see asmany problems as the Honda civic, or as many problems occuring on one car that would make you think you are looking at the Audi forums!
 
"edmunds and c/d tests put certain grip and slalom numbers on par if not better than the 3"
Did they check the tire'sidewalls? M.T. did, and on the race track the car could not hold up to the rest because of the tires!! The side walls were almost gone!
tireson the 3 after 3 laps looked new! So enjoy tour turns, just keep it slow.
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Re: $2200 for bad A/C [eldaino] by aviboy97
Jul 25, 2007 (4:10 pm)
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Replying to: eldaino (Jul 25, 2007 11:57 am)

I was being sarcastic, I figured YOU of all people would pick up on that!
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Re: $2200 for bad A/C [aviboy97] by pat HOST
Jul 26, 2007 (4:39 am)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Jul 25, 2007 4:10 pm)

It's a good idea to use a or something for everyone's benefit. It can be hard to pick up that kind of subtlety when you can't see the person's face or hear the tone of voice.
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Re: $2200 for bad A/C [aviboy97] by eldaino
Jul 26, 2007 (8:57 am)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Jul 25, 2007 4:10 pm)

sorry dude! i know i should have!
 
its all good bro.
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Re: $2200 for bad A/C [sssfegy] by eldaino
Jul 26, 2007 (9:00 am)
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Replying to: sssfegy (Jul 25, 2007 3:03 pm)

Why don't YOU get familiar with the forums mr. 116 posts?
 
its a type of civic"hint: It's ugggggly! It's a Japanese Saturn! Made out of plastic
 
who needs a hint? and why are you hinting at something that it isn't? there are so many useless and wrong things with this statement i needn't type anymore.
 
M.T. did, and on the race track the car could not hold up to the rest because of the tires!! The side walls were almost gone!
tireson the 3 after 3 laps looked new! So enjoy tour turns, just keep it slow.

 
first of all, what car are you talking about? the si or the civic? i strongly doubt that the sidewalls were 'almost gone'. which mt comparo compares the 3 to a civic in which this happened or compares the 3 to an si when this happened?
 
if there were any truth to this statement it makes the tires look bad, not the car.
 
i don't really take motortrend that serious anymore, and they have never really had bad things to say about the civics, especially not after giving it the car of the year award.
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Re: $2200 for bad A/C [pat] by aviboy97
Jul 26, 2007 (10:29 am)
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Replying to: pat (Jul 26, 2007 4:39 am)

Yeah, by the time I thought of that, it was too late to edit it!
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Re: $2200 for bad A/C [eldaino] by sssfegy
Jul 26, 2007 (5:23 pm)
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Replying to: eldaino (Jul 26, 2007 9:00 am)

No you don't need to get familliar with all the posts, but who you are replying to, you look at the original post.
What you can not accept my opinion ? I hate how it looks, and told you why!
The sidewalls of the tire wearing out has very little to do with the tire itself, it has to do with engineering of the suspension, and the engineer that chose that exact tire for their superior handling Honda.
Who said its a bad car? It just does not compare to the 3!

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