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Honda Civic vs Mazda3

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Re: $2200 for bad A/C [eldaino] by ecofun
Jul 24, 2007 (7:26 am)
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Replying to: eldaino (Jul 24, 2007 5:19 am)

fuel pump is no biggie...at 80K...that's a stretch. What percent of Accords would you guess blow a fuel pump by 80K?
 
Don't know where your mileage numbers come from, but last I looked fueleconomy.com showed a difference of 3.2 mpg based on actual driving experience.
 
As far as interior is concerned, leather, Bose, and a back seat someone could actually fit in were enough for me.
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Re: $2200 for bad A/C [cz75] by mrblonde49
Jul 24, 2007 (12:28 pm)
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Replying to: cz75 (Jul 23, 2007 7:34 am)

Getting great reviews isn't too hard, in the short term. One wonders about the flaws that will show up in the long-term, like broken A/C after 4 years. ""
 
They got great reviews in 2004, straight thru 2007. I'd like to see a negative one, if you can find it
  
>>Moreover, popularity isn't a good yardstick for quality. Anyone who bought one would almost have to notice how worthless the A/C was, yet still be dumb enough to buy one."
 
I have an 06 and my a/c is not an issue, and that is with 100 degree humid days
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Re: $2200 for bad A/C [mrblonde49] by cz75
Jul 24, 2007 (2:24 pm)
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Replying to: mrblonde49 (Jul 24, 2007 12:28 pm)

I've yet to see any more than one long-term test to shake out the cars flaws. Even Ford and GM can make something that holds together until warranty is up, for the most part. Of course, they both know how to make decent A/C too.
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Re: $2200 for bad A/C [cz75] by sssfegy
Jul 25, 2007 (8:25 am)
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Replying to: cz75 (Jul 24, 2007 2:24 pm)

CZ you made your point, its Japanese garbage bla...
Now that you bought the si(which loses in every comparison done to date to the Speed 3) you don't need to show us how happy you are with your underdog..go brag in the civic forum that one Mazda3 had an A/C replaced..
Enjoy your si, and don't think it's a civic.
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Re: $2200 for bad A/C [cz75] by ecofun
Jul 25, 2007 (8:57 am)
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Replying to: cz75 (Jul 24, 2007 2:24 pm)

Hey CZ, if you want to read about bad A/C, check out this link:
http://www.reviewcentre.com/vt101989_start0_orderasc.html
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Re: $2200 for bad A/C [ecofun] by aviboy97
Jul 25, 2007 (11:03 am)
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Replying to: ecofun (Jul 25, 2007 8:57 am)

Ecofun,
 
That is not fair to the Honda Civic people. Showing them evidence that their Honda actually can have problems is just wrong! We should only state problems with other brands, for, they are and never will be flawless like the Honda Civic.
 
I guess I am out of line as well for posting the following link....
 
http://media.ford.com/newsroom/release_display.cfm?release=25480
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Re: $2200 for bad A/C [aviboy97] by eldaino
Jul 25, 2007 (11:57 am)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Jul 25, 2007 11:03 am)

1st thing: honda was a hair behind, so its practically a moot point.
 
2nd thing: i think comparing 2 brands that are usually thought of as better than average with regards to reliability and to have either one called junk by an owner/fan of the other is silly.
 
so i kinda disagree with c's comments as well as the honda ones. both are good cars.
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Re: $2200 for bad A/C [cz75] by eldaino
Jul 25, 2007 (12:03 pm)
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Replying to: cz75 (Jul 24, 2007 2:24 pm)

i will agree with this.
 
come one guys, most car reviews that favor the car NEVER
 
EVER
 
EVER
 
EVER take into consideration long term reliability. (sometimes a honda review will throw it in or mention resale value but thats about it.)
 
and yes i know that the 3 has gotten consistent good reviews in later years...but then again they are testing a NEW car right? not just re-using an older tester again?
 
in fact, i can't think of anyone who has had their 3 in a long term fleet...if there is a site i'd love to read up on it.
 
i'm NOT arguing the 3 is a bad car at all, i'm just saying that the concept of reliability issues coming up during the early miles of the car regardless of year wont show what long term reliability is, so no one, not a honda or mazda guy, can go by that.
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Re: $2200 for bad A/C [sssfegy] by eldaino
Jul 25, 2007 (12:08 pm)
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Replying to: sssfegy (Jul 25, 2007 8:25 am)

why are you bringing in the speed 3 and si into this?
 
nothing wrong with an underdog...in fact, most people agree that the si actually handles BETTER than the mazda, and i know a few edmunds and c/d tests put certain grip and slalom numbers on par if not better than the 3. and the shifter is worlds better on the civic than on the speed 3.
 
Tq and acceleration? yeah you have your winner...but you don't have anything new or typcial of the brand: anyone can turbo a large engine and excpect good acceleration.
  
 
Cz has no need to brag in the civic forums about mazda 3's having a/c problems, enough people do it here.
 
didn't understand the comment about enjoying one's si and not thinking its a civic...is that suppossed to be like derogatory? its a type of civic, so i don't see how your comment makes any sense at all.
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Re: $2200 for bad A/C [eldaino] by sssfegy
Jul 25, 2007 (3:03 pm)
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Replying to: eldaino (Jul 25, 2007 12:08 pm)

Why don't you get familliar with the forums? Cz states he owns an si and he could not wait to report a problem on a friend's 3!(jea..)!
"its a type of civic"hint: It's ugggggly! It's a Japanese Saturn! Made out of plastic
I don't see asmany problems as the Honda civic, or as many problems occuring on one car that would make you think you are looking at the Audi forums!
 
"edmunds and c/d tests put certain grip and slalom numbers on par if not better than the 3"
Did they check the tire'sidewalls? M.T. did, and on the race track the car could not hold up to the rest because of the tires!! The side walls were almost gone!
tireson the 3 after 3 laps looked new! So enjoy tour turns, just keep it slow.

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