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Honda Civic, Mazda MAZDA3, Sedan
#1242 of 1338 Re: Safety and Fuel Economy [snoopyk9]
Jul 16, 2007 (6:17 am)
The Insurance Institute for Highway Safety tested the 2005 Mazda 3, and gave it the "Poor" rating for the side impact test. However, that test was done without the side airbags. They have not retested the Mazda3 with the side bags, but other cars, such as the Toyota Corolla, have been tested with and without airbags, and there is a big improvement in the side impact safety rating. The Corolla goes from "Poor" to "Acceptable."
It is probably safe to assume that the same improvement is achieved in a Mazda3 with side airbags. Just go to the IIHS website, www.iihs.org, and look at cars that have been tested with and without side airbags.
#1243 of 1338 Re: Safety and Fuel Economy [snoopyk9]
Jul 16, 2007 (12:43 pm)
I went to a mazda dealership, test drove the speed3 then went to a honda dealership after and drove the Si. I think the feel of the Si is much better quality. Yea the speed3 has more power and is faster, but shifting and down shifting is a pain compared to the Si. Its got a boring interior, and dont get me started on the seats. The Si seats are the real shit, lol.
After writing this, i just realized you could be talking about the regular mazda 3 and not the mazdaspeed 3. lol, in that case ive never driven a mazda 3. I wish they made the mazdaspeed 3 in that sedan rather than only that hatchback.
If you go to the store and look at MotorTrends new issue. They put the Si up against the new Nissan Spec-V. But in it has a very good review of the Si that is very accurate after driving my Si for 8 months(except mines coupe, not sedan).
#1246 of 1338 Civic and 3
Jul 17, 2007 (6:11 pm)
I use to be a very proud owner of a 06 Civic EX Sedan, 5MT, w/Navi. The wife and I purchased a 05 Accord EX 5AT and really liked the car. So what the heck I got a very early 8th gen. Civic. It turned out to be a .
Here is a list of warranty issues.
Heater duct fell off.
Power steering leak.
Deformed side trunk liners.
Bad drivers window switch.
Bad right rear spring.
Both rear tires had belt speration.
Dash insert warped around speedo.
Dealers repaired all of this.
Then it had a rear wheel bearing go bad. I replaced both of them myself.
Its always had a alignment issue. Right rear tire worn on the inside edge.
Then this past weekend I found the inner door seals to be roting out. The drivers door seal failed. Then something let loose in the right rear of the car. Whack bang waddle waddle.
So I got rid of it. Traded it for a new Base, 07 Mazda3 S Touring Sedan. Its Purple Mica.
To compare the MZ3 to a Si is a bit of a joke. Its like apples to oranges. Comparing to a EX Sedan is the thing to do.
MZ3 has more motor, more sporty suspension, 17" wheels, Better brakes! Traction Control, fog lights, better seats, a bit more room and less road noise. And I think better fit and finish than my Civic had. The audio system is better. My Bass Link will work nice in the trunk.
The Civic had the really cool dash IMO and a tactual feel on cockpit controls only Lexus can match. Ergonomics where great! I liked the drivers seat better than our Accords. The clutch was feather light. The R-18 was smooth as butter and a real mpg getter. If Honda had done the R-18 lean burn. There would be no HCHII. I really like the sun roof and Navi. And I already miss the trunk remote on the fob.
I can share with you the MZ3 is easy to drive compared to the Civic. The Civic just doesn't have enough torque. The R-18 is a surprising engine once broke in. Ive taken a few stock ep3's to school with the stock R-18. It jumped up and surprised them. But I can tell the MZ3 will get the R-18 once broken in.
Im a hypermiler. I spend a lot of time driving for fuel economy. No flaming please. I commute 80 to 125 miles a day. Thats why the Civic had 41.441 miles on it in almost 19 months. The MZ3 will get good mpg but ,,, I don't think it will ever step up to the Civics mpg.
I can share with you the Civic had no rattles or squeaks. Not so much as a loud material rub. And zero wind noise. All it offered up was road noise and a audio system for cabin noise. Almost Accord like. But not as quite as my daughters 04 Camry. Not bad for a Civic,,, at all. Im already hearing material rubs in the MZ3.
To compare these two cars is almost impossible. What one does well the other doesn't. I would hate to have both these cars in my drive way. I would be like a woman trying to figure out which outfit to wear today. They both have style, tude, good engineering, and the ability to please.
Trading the Civic off was like having to put a pet down. Just didn't want to do it. But ,,, just didn't have a choice. The call had to be made.
As for the deal. I got above KBB for the trade on the Civic. Did good on it. I didn't fare so well on the MZ3. $17700 OTD, including dest. Not bad,,, but could have been better. I figure if I'd limped the Civic home and purchased the Mazda3 today I would have got it for $17,200. O well I was done with the Civic and home was 40 miles away in a very crippled car.
I wish my Civic had been one of the solid ones. Or I would still be in it.
#1247 of 1338 Have Both In Our Garage
Jul 17, 2007 (6:28 pm)
We have both of these cars and we're both pleased with what we drive. I prefer the economy of the Civic and the wife prefers the power of her S model. We both prefer this size of car now, having previously owned mid sized GM cars. I did really like the Mazda 6 Value Edition that I saw at the dealership today though. A lot of car for the money.
#1251 of 1338 Re: Check it Out! [brad69]
Jul 17, 2007 (10:55 pm)
hey administrator, whats up with this guy posting these ford advertisements everywhere???
also, i kept comparing the mazdaSpeed 3 to the Si, not the regular 3 series to the Si.
whats the power like in the regular 3 series, size and hp/tq?