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#1235 of 1333 Re: Honda Civic vs Mazda3 [themistocles] by eldaino Jul 09, 2007 (10:59 am)
Replying to: themistocles (Jul 09, 2007 10:45 am) you can make modifications to the ecu, but the epu is not going to to anything!   most people interested in racing wont opt for a fully loaded gti; i can get a four door for about 24k, and there is no way you are getting a 2k turbo that will last outside of 1500miles. even if you do get a decked out gti; after the expense of turboing a civic; you are still just tacking on 500 bucks to the gti's 27k pricetag; and your still saving one thing: TIME.   the ecu upgrade wont really 'change' your vtec engagement point either, especially since i vtec is always 'engaged' and just swithces between economy and performance cams. this isn't b series v tec. and modding this wont really change your ability to shift on the money; you'd have to upgrade your own brains ecu to do that!   don't worry man, im not hating on you, i like the si and you should enjoy your car, i just prefer the gti for different reasons. Replies to this message: themistocles (Jul 09, 2007 11:11 am) eldaino (Jul 10, 2007 6:45 am)
#1236 of 1333 Re: Honda Civic vs Mazda3 [themistocles] by eldaino Jul 09, 2007 (11:02 am)
Replying to: themistocles (Jul 09, 2007 10:45 am) but ive seen stock Si's 0-60 at 6.3   you've seen? or driven? they must of been working that transmission, again why the gti has the advantage, you can bully the engine, but don't have to to get a time like this. Replies to this message: themistocles (Jul 09, 2007 11:19 am)
#1237 of 1333 Re: Honda Civic vs Mazda3 [eldaino] by themistocles Jul 09, 2007 (11:11 am)
Replying to: eldaino (Jul 09, 2007 10:59 am) yea ive read about the vtec always being engaged, damnit im trying to find the site i was reading though. they sell the ecu reflash for the 06-07 and showed they changed the redline to 8600 and the vtec engaged at 4500, so i was a little confused. there is no doubt though, everytime you floor it, right when it hits 6k there is a definite change in power and sound. Replies to this message: eldaino (Jul 10, 2007 6:45 am)
#1238 of 1333 Re: Honda Civic vs Mazda3 [eldaino] by themistocles Jul 09, 2007 (11:19 am)
Replying to: eldaino (Jul 09, 2007 11:02 am) ah here it is... http://www.hondata.com/reflash_06_civicsi.html   i dont race anyway, so i dont really know why im talkin so much about this. all i was tryin to say was i like the Si better than the new Gti. one day i was like im going to buy a new car, so i went to several dealerships a day for a weak or so test driving cars, then i decided to get the si.
#1239 of 1333 Re: Honda Civic vs Mazda3 [themistocles] by eldaino Jul 10, 2007 (6:45 am)
Replying to: themistocles (Jul 09, 2007 11:11 am) thanks for the link, this actually proves my point; they are just lowering when the high end cams take over, instead of so close to 6k rpms; and they even mention how the sound is more subtle, but still produces more power. (your car sounds different so high up, simply because when that cam is engaged you are making your peak power.)   the dyno charts show that this car after headers, intake, exhaust and the chip w/heatshield, makes a little less power to the wheels (just hp that is) than a stock gti.   don't worry about your car man, its a great choice and you should enjoy it!
#1241 of 1333 Re: Safety and Fuel Economy [mongoose65] by snoopyk9 Jul 15, 2007 (7:13 pm)
Replying to: mongoose65 (Apr 21, 2007 2:43 pm) I was wondering where you read that the addition of side airbags increases the Mazda3's rating (Not that I don't believe you, I'm just curious.) Their safety rating is the main reservation I have about the Mazda3. I have been searching and searching everywhere online about safety, and have just run into this post about the improved rating. I am also deciding between a Civic and the Mazda3. Any sources would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Replies to this message: tomkozski (Jul 16, 2007 5:17 am) themistocles (Jul 16, 2007 11:43 am)
#1242 of 1333 Re: Safety and Fuel Economy [snoopyk9] by tomkozski Jul 16, 2007 (5:17 am)
Replying to: snoopyk9 (Jul 15, 2007 7:13 pm) The Insurance Institute for Highway Safety tested the 2005 Mazda 3, and gave it the "Poor" rating for the side impact test. However, that test was done without the side airbags. They have not retested the Mazda3 with the side bags, but other cars, such as the Toyota Corolla, have been tested with and without airbags, and there is a big improvement in the side impact safety rating. The Corolla goes from "Poor" to "Acceptable."   It is probably safe to assume that the same improvement is achieved in a Mazda3 with side airbags. Just go to the IIHS website, www.iihs.org, and look at cars that have been tested with and without side airbags.
#1243 of 1333 Re: Safety and Fuel Economy [snoopyk9] by themistocles Jul 16, 2007 (11:43 am)
Replying to: snoopyk9 (Jul 15, 2007 7:13 pm) I went to a mazda dealership, test drove the speed3 then went to a honda dealership after and drove the Si. I think the feel of the Si is much better quality. Yea the speed3 has more power and is faster, but shifting and down shifting is a pain compared to the Si. Its got a boring interior, and dont get me started on the seats. The Si seats are the real shit, lol. After writing this, i just realized you could be talking about the regular mazda 3 and not the mazdaspeed 3. lol, in that case ive never driven a mazda 3. I wish they made the mazdaspeed 3 in that sedan rather than only that hatchback. If you go to the store and look at MotorTrends new issue. They put the Si up against the new Nissan Spec-V. But in it has a very good review of the Si that is very accurate after driving my Si for 8 months(except mines coupe, not sedan).

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