Honda Civic vs Mazda3

Replying to: themistocles (Jul 09, 2007 12:41 am)

ha! good one pal. the gti runs in mid to high 14's.
 
the si's motor is wonderful. but its attributes are also its weaknesses. you don't have to keep a gti's engine on boling point to get power out of it. in fact most 0-60 runs in a gti are quiker than an si, almost a second in fact. (last gti was car and driver tested and it ran in 6.2 seconds.)
 
you can turbo an si, but how much will that cost? (not to mention preparing the car for the turbo.) 500 bucks gets you a gti with 50lbs of torque more and about 30-40 more hp.
 
the twisties? yeah, stock, si rules. But that gti is still in your rearview mirror....

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Replying to: sssfegy (Jul 09, 2007 9:30 am)

yes ive read all about the mazdaspeed 3, i know what its capable of and have driven it a couple times. Just go look at that thing they call a "car". try driving it. if they put the mazdaspeed 3 engine in the sedan rather than that twinkie lookin hatchback, now damn that would be somethin... people would actually buy it. remember im statin my opinion so dont get all mad people seem to take things personal on here.

Replying to: themistocles (Jul 09, 2007 10:45 am)

you can make modifications to the ecu, but the epu is not going to to anything!
 
most people interested in racing wont opt for a fully loaded gti; i can get a four door for about 24k, and there is no way you are getting a 2k turbo that will last outside of 1500miles. even if you do get a decked out gti; after the expense of turboing a civic; you are still just tacking on 500 bucks to the gti's 27k pricetag; and your still saving one thing: TIME.
 
the ecu upgrade wont really 'change' your vtec engagement point either, especially since i vtec is always 'engaged' and just swithces between economy and performance cams. this isn't b series v tec. and modding this wont really change your ability to shift on the money; you'd have to upgrade your own brains ecu to do that!
 
don't worry man, im not hating on you, i like the si and you should enjoy your car, i just prefer the gti for different reasons.

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Replying to: mongoose65 (Apr 21, 2007 2:43 pm)

I was wondering where you read that the addition of side airbags increases the Mazda3's rating (Not that I don't believe you, I'm just curious.) Their safety rating is the main reservation I have about the Mazda3. I have been searching and searching everywhere online about safety, and have just run into this post about the improved rating. I am also deciding between a Civic and the Mazda3. Any sources would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

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