Honda Civic vs Mazda3

Replying to: smallcar1 (Jul 04, 2007 7:37 am)

Replying to: pat (Dec 26, 2005 3:09 pm)

I have a 07 civic si and my girl friend has a civic ex. I've test driven the mazdaspeed 3 which sadly only comes in that dreadfully ugly hatchback in my opinion. definitely dont buy a mazdaspeed 3, its got nice power but really isnt nearly as fun to drive. i think it has a poor interior, horrible gear box, just has a overall feel that its going to crap out on you in a couple years. the mazda 3 sedan is a much better car and certainly has more power than a normal civic, but civic is much more reliable and will last you longer im sure. my girlfriend has put over 75,000 miles on her civic in less than 3 years and never has had a single problem except chipped windshield. they are extremely well made and can take a beatin and keep on goin forever. If you got the money, get a Si i absolutely love my Si, ive test driven every car in its class and the Si is the most fun to drive and will last you the longest. it doesnt even have a turbo and pumps out as much power as say a Gti which is a 2.0 turbo. anyway im just blabbing now, get a civic or civic Si

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Replying to: themistocles (Jul 08, 2007 7:28 am)

it doesnt even have a turbo and pumps out as much power as say a Gti which is a 2.0 turbo. anyway im just blabbing now, get a civic or civic Si
 
Actually, it is lacking severely in torque compared with the GTI turbo.
 
I'd still pick the Civic, but it's not the more-powerful car.

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Replying to: themistocles (Jul 09, 2007 12:41 am)

now you put the Si on a windy road and i know for sure who will win

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Replying to: themistocles (Jul 09, 2007 12:42 am)

DEFINITELY!

Replying to: themistocles (Jul 08, 2007 7:28 am)

Motor Trend June 2007:
"Compared to the Civic si the Mazdaspeed3 cranks everything one noticeable notch"
 
Honda fans need to take deep breathe here is the rest compared to the 3:
Better ergonomics,more body roll, less powerful brakes with nonlinear response,less peak power,lazy steering response,more understeer than the 3!
 
How do you claim the above?

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• themistocles (Jul 09, 2007 10:54 am)

Replying to: themistocles (Jul 09, 2007 12:41 am)

ha! good one pal. the gti runs in mid to high 14's.
 
the si's motor is wonderful. but its attributes are also its weaknesses. you don't have to keep a gti's engine on boling point to get power out of it. in fact most 0-60 runs in a gti are quiker than an si, almost a second in fact. (last gti was car and driver tested and it ran in 6.2 seconds.)
 
you can turbo an si, but how much will that cost? (not to mention preparing the car for the turbo.) 500 bucks gets you a gti with 50lbs of torque more and about 30-40 more hp.
 
the twisties? yeah, stock, si rules. But that gti is still in your rearview mirror....

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Replying to: sssfegy (Jul 09, 2007 9:30 am)

yes ive read all about the mazdaspeed 3, i know what its capable of and have driven it a couple times. Just go look at that thing they call a "car". try driving it. if they put the mazdaspeed 3 engine in the sedan rather than that twinkie lookin hatchback, now damn that would be somethin... people would actually buy it. remember im statin my opinion so dont get all mad people seem to take things personal on here.