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Re: Dilemma no more! [eldaino]
by smallcar1
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Jul 04, 2007 (7:37 am)
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Replying to: eldaino (Jul 02, 2007 10:32 am)
A co-worker has an '06 Civic and it only gets the 36 MPG on the opne road with no traffic. I have another co-woker with an '01 Civic and his MPG stays up there even if there is some traffic but the '06 has much more power.
I test drove the new Civic and I thought that the car felt like a late '90s Accord rather than an econmoy car like the old Civic. What kept me from buying it was that I use the hood to judge where the front or side of the car is and in the new Civic you can't see the hood at all from the driver's seat.
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- #1225 of 1333
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Re: Dilemma no more! [smallcar1]
by eldaino
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Jul 05, 2007 (7:04 am)
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Replying to: smallcar1 (Jul 04, 2007 7:37 am)
A co-worker has an '06 Civic and it only gets the 36 MPG on the opne road with no traffic
only gets 36? thats fantastic, given its rated at 36.
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- #1226 of 1333
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Re: Honda Civic vs Mazda3 [pat]
by themistocles
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Jul 08, 2007 (7:28 am)
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Replying to: pat (Dec 26, 2005 3:09 pm)
I have a 07 civic si and my girl friend has a civic ex. I've test driven the mazdaspeed 3 which sadly only comes in that dreadfully ugly hatchback in my opinion. definitely dont buy a mazdaspeed 3, its got nice power but really isnt nearly as fun to drive. i think it has a poor interior, horrible gear box, just has a overall feel that its going to crap out on you in a couple years. the mazda 3 sedan is a much better car and certainly has more power than a normal civic, but civic is much more reliable and will last you longer im sure. my girlfriend has put over 75,000 miles on her civic in less than 3 years and never has had a single problem except chipped windshield. they are extremely well made and can take a beatin and keep on goin forever. If you got the money, get a Si i absolutely love my Si, ive test driven every car in its class and the Si is the most fun to drive and will last you the longest. it doesnt even have a turbo and pumps out as much power as say a Gti which is a 2.0 turbo. anyway im just blabbing now, get a civic or civic Si
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Re: Honda Civic vs Mazda3 [themistocles]
by thegraduate
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Jul 08, 2007 (1:21 pm)
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Replying to: themistocles (Jul 08, 2007 7:28 am)
it doesnt even have a turbo and pumps out as much power as say a Gti which is a 2.0 turbo. anyway im just blabbing now, get a civic or civic Si
Actually, it is lacking severely in torque compared with the GTI turbo.
I'd still pick the Civic, but it's not the more-powerful car.
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- #1228 of 1333
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Re: Honda Civic vs Mazda3 [thegraduate]
by themistocles
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Jul 09, 2007 (12:41 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jul 08, 2007 1:21 pm)
oh i know, im just sayin as much horsepower anyway and if you were to put a turbo in the Si, you would be way over the Gti. But still, even tho the Si has alot less torque, its still up in the air who would win a 1/4 mile run. The Si and Gti both run a 15.0, its really just whos better with a clutch that will win the race.
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- #1229 of 1333
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Re: Honda Civic vs Mazda3 [themistocles]
by themistocles
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Jul 09, 2007 (12:42 am)
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Replying to: themistocles (Jul 09, 2007 12:41 am)
now you put the Si on a windy road and i know for sure who will win
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Re: Honda Civic vs Mazda3 [themistocles]
by thegraduate
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Jul 09, 2007 (7:18 am)
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Replying to: themistocles (Jul 09, 2007 12:42 am)
DEFINITELY!
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- #1231 of 1333
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Re: Honda Civic vs Mazda3 [themistocles]
by sssfegy
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Jul 09, 2007 (9:30 am)
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Replying to: themistocles (Jul 08, 2007 7:28 am)
Motor Trend June 2007:
"Compared to the Civic si the Mazdaspeed3 cranks everything one noticeable notch"
Honda fans need to take deep breathe here is the rest compared to the 3:
Better ergonomics,more body roll, less powerful brakes with nonlinear response,less peak power,lazy steering response,more understeer than the 3!
How do you claim the above?
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Re: Honda Civic vs Mazda3 [themistocles]
by eldaino
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Jul 09, 2007 (10:16 am)
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Replying to: themistocles (Jul 09, 2007 12:41 am)
ha! good one pal. the gti runs in mid to high 14's.
the si's motor is wonderful. but its attributes are also its weaknesses. you don't have to keep a gti's engine on boling point to get power out of it. in fact most 0-60 runs in a gti are quiker than an si, almost a second in fact. (last gti was car and driver tested and it ran in 6.2 seconds.)
you can turbo an si, but how much will that cost? (not to mention preparing the car for the turbo.) 500 bucks gets you a gti with 50lbs of torque more and about 30-40 more hp.
the twisties? yeah, stock, si rules. But that gti is still in your rearview mirror....
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Re: Honda Civic vs Mazda3 [eldaino]
by themistocles
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Jul 09, 2007 (10:45 am)
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Replying to: eldaino (Jul 09, 2007 10:16 am)
well im not going to argue.. but ive seen stock Si's 0-60 at 6.3. anyway, loaded Gti is around 27-29k i believe? Si around 21? im only guessing you could put a turbo for in for less than 6-8k along with the components you need to ready it. Anyway, Si wasnt made to slug it out in a straight line. you certainly can make it do that though. Also with a simple fix of the epu, you can change where the vtec is engaged, so that each shift, your right on the money.
anyway, all i was really saying is that the Si competes with it. and that i would rather have the Si over the Gti.
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