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Honda Civic vs Mazda3

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Re: Buying Dilemma [ecofun] by mrblonde49
Jun 26, 2007 (6:02 am)
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Replying to: ecofun (Jun 25, 2007 1:19 pm)

Thanks for the input. My emotional side wants the Mazda3 but I don't want buyer's remorse when I experience the first major problem. Currently an owner of an Accord and CRV, it's like change the oil and forget about it. Also a previous owner of Saabs, I don't want to be at the dealer every couple of months dealing with the small stuff. Based on your first 20K, would you say that it has gone as smoothly as your Honda ownership? "
 
Not sure why you are under the impression tha tthere will be a major problem. Most issues have been ironed out. Teh A/C is not the strongest, but it gets the job done for me and it can get very hot here in NJ.
 
The reason I have Mazda 3 is that my Saab 9-3 was brought in roughly a dozen times in 2 1/2 years, the final straw being a completely blown auto tranny at 37K miles. Thank God it was warrantied until 50, but I had to sell before I was out of warranty. I bought the Mazda and have had zero issues besides oil changes with it in 30K miles (aside from getting rear ended). My tires have held up, too and only now are looking at replacement
 
One other thing I noticed in your comparison. If fitting golf bags with the seat up is an issue, why wouldn't you consider the sedan for both?
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MPG by eldaino
Jun 26, 2007 (6:17 am)
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you've owned hondas in the past,ecofun, and i think that that feeling of 'change the oil and forget it' will def carry over into your civic. (remember, just like the 3, most of the problems have been ironed out too and the civic JUST came out, whereas the 3 has been around longer.)
 
one thing that dairyshick seemed to play down a bit in his post; your mileage will not be 'a bit better' in the civic. its going to be amazingly better, especially if the mazda you are comparing it to is the 2.3.
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Dilemma no more! by ecofun
Jun 26, 2007 (1:11 pm)
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Good input all. So good that I went with the M3. Made my deal last night and signed the paperwork today. Good news for those in the market...financing dropped to 0.0% for 3 yrs effective today. That's right, free money. Bought the car at invoice:
 
Invoice $20,609 (inc/regional adjustment for the Boston district-advertising, etc.)
 
Only option was moonroof/Bose.
Documentation fees were $169.
 
Out the door for $20,778.
 
I don't know if there was money left on the table but thought it was a good price. The regional adj was $249 (probably goes back to the dealer.
 
Nevertheless, it was the only S GT manual in galaxy gray within 100 miles and didn't want to lose it for a few extra bucks. There is restricted allocation of manuals as many of you may know and sticks are much harder to come across. I went with the Hatch out of personal preference. You are right- the clubs do go into the sedan trunk without getting into the back seat but I'm sure there will be a day when the hatch comes in handy. I found the appearance unique and fewer on the road, perception anyway. Will pick up the car by the weekend and will report back on first impression. Feel pretty good about the decision anyway.
 
Regarding mileage, that was one of the trade offs compared to the civic coupe. Assuming 5 mpg difference based on EPA ratings, 25,000 miles/year, it's about $400 in gas cost annually. I figured that $7.69 a week was worth the extra "entertainment value" that the Mazda3 offered over the Civic. Heck, a movie is $9.00 now!
 
By the way, I mentioned the reliability issue I had in my decision to the sales mgr and he showed me a new survey put out by Cars Direct just today indicating that Mazda nosed out Honda in fewest mechanical problems among 3-9 year old vehicles. I was a little surprised but pleased to hear. Hope the data is credible.
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Re: Dilemma no more! [ecofun] by aviboy97
Jun 26, 2007 (2:07 pm)
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Replying to: ecofun (Jun 26, 2007 1:11 pm)

Read this
 
http://www.1stchoice.co.uk/News.aspx?ID=10457
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Re: Dilemma no more! [aviboy97] by ecofun
Jun 26, 2007 (2:32 pm)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Jun 26, 2007 2:07 pm)

this is what the dealer showed me...didn't remember the exact source I guess. thx.
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Re: Dilemma no more! [ecofun] by aviboy97
Jun 27, 2007 (5:45 am)
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Replying to: ecofun (Jun 26, 2007 2:32 pm)

No problem, it was posted for a while on Mazda's website as well
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eco by eldaino
Jun 27, 2007 (8:31 am)
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congrats on your purchase man and enjoy!
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Re: Dilemma no more! [ecofun] by cchicago
Jun 27, 2007 (10:35 am)
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Replying to: ecofun (Jun 26, 2007 1:11 pm)

Congratulations on your purchase. I have the exact same car in Black Mica. Although the Civic is a very nice car I didn't even consider purchasing a car without stability control. Since I keep my cars for a long time I didn't want to be without that important safety feature for the next decade.
 
So far I haven't had any issues with the A/C. We've had a few 90+ days so far in Chicago and even if the car has been sitting in the sun it cools off in 10min or so.
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Re: Dilemma no more! [cchicago] by ecofun
Jun 27, 2007 (11:01 am)
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Replying to: cchicago (Jun 27, 2007 10:35 am)

Just for kicks, I decided to run out at lunch and do one last test drive before picking mine up. With all the A/C debate, it's 98 degrees in Boston today so I figured no better day to test out the A/C. The car had been sitting in the sun all day and it was like an oven inside when the salesman opened the door. We took off a minute later and I was thrilled to see how quickly the car cooled down...pretty comfortable within 5 minutes. We blasted the A/C and no substantial loss in power either.
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Re: Dilemma no more! [ecofun] by eldaino
Jun 28, 2007 (10:52 am)
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Replying to: ecofun (Jun 27, 2007 11:01 am)

thats good man. its seems that the a/c bug is FINALLY out. enjoy the car!

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