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Have Both by sandman46
Jun 11, 2007 (3:34 pm)
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And agree with some of the comments...but not all. Funny though, I drive the Civic and the wife drive the 3s. She likes the "zoom zoom" and I prefer the economy and the split dash. We've been Toyota and Nissan folks before this, but we're both quite happy with our current rides.
 
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Re: [socal2006] by eldaino
Jun 12, 2007 (6:43 am)
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Replying to: socal2006 (Jun 11, 2007 2:42 pm)

cab forward designs may have been done before but not in the same vein as the civic. While the back looks more traditional, it has VERY strong hues of audi a4 and bimmer's 3. THe mazda is just a nice looking sedan.
 
Sometimes people associate bland with seeing a car often, and you probably do see slightly more civics than 3's...but that still doesn't change the civics unorthodox design.
 
true, there was only an si coupe, but there was probably enough time to do a comparo before the speed 3 came along. I just knew it wasn't going to happen. Just like testing the civic type r sedan wont happen, a car that while maybe not as quick 0-60 would pretty much obliterate the mazda with regards to driving purity and handling. (a civic that laps faster than an s2k? yeah, amazing.)
 
if there is a whole slew of b-segment cars that are the new 'economy' cars, then the title was still a bit on the tricky side. And REGARDLESS of the title, the civic DOES pack more 'economy' and frugality than the 3.
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Mazda 3 or Civic Si ??? by sonnyrocker
Jun 12, 2007 (12:47 pm)
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I've been driving Honda for many years, but now I am ready to trade in my Accord and I want to go with a sporty compact sedan with some power and on budget....
I test drove the Mazda 3 and its nice. It has a European feel to it, almost like a BMA 3 Series but $10-$15 cheaper.
I do like the Mazda look better than the Civic, but as a long time Honda fan, I still have the love for a Honda. What do you think? Please to convince me which one to get!
Thanks in advance
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Which One by sandman46
Jun 12, 2007 (5:47 pm)
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The Civic from a purely mpg standpoint. But it is fun to drive. The slower power from the 1.8 engine is a tradeoff I can live with. For pure driving excitement, the 3s is fantastic in this regard. Lower mpg's, but that's the trade off. For fit & finish, I'll have to give the nod to Honda. Too much black in our 3s and the seats aren't as comfortable.
Both great cars, as evidenced by our garage. Will be quite interested in the next generation Corolla though. I think Toyota needs to hit a grand slam with it, as the competition has gotten that good. Hopefully they'll get the driving position just right. The Corolla we rented last year had an awkward feel when driving...just couldn't get a comfortable fit with the steering wheel...something just wasn't right. I've read others have felt the same thing.
Great time to buy this class of car though. Endless choices at different price levels.
 
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Re: Which One [sandman46] by sonnyrocker
Jun 12, 2007 (6:30 pm)
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Replying to: sandman46 (Jun 12, 2007 5:47 pm)

I had a Corolla for 10 years, sold it to a friend and his family still has it!! Total 16 years!!!
No doubt that they are long lasting cars, but Corolla never had the design to handle the roads well. It doesn't hang curves well and it just looks really boring.
If I consider a Honda, it has to be the Si Sedan with 2.0L and 197HP. But as for torque, Mazda has honda beat. Its even better if you move up to Mazdaspeed3, 1-60 in 5.8 sec.
The problem with Mazdaspeed3 is that, the hatchback is just not my style....I am 6'1 and 210 (I am not fat, just a big guy physically fit) and I would look really funny in a wagon/hatchback...
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Re: Which One [sonnyrocker] by eldaino
Jun 13, 2007 (5:25 am)
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Replying to: sonnyrocker (Jun 12, 2007 6:30 pm)

while the base civic is fun, it seems you want something a bit sporiter; the 2.3 and civic si sedan get roughly the same mpg, maybe slightly in hondas favor.
 
Despite the torque advantage the mazda 3 has, the civic si IS faster still. and it handles better. (i'm not talking about the mazdaspeed though.)
 
The si sedan sounds like your sporty ride; plus you still get to keep your honda loyalty going!
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Re: Which One [eldaino] by sonnyrocker
Jun 13, 2007 (5:39 am)
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Replying to: eldaino (Jun 13, 2007 5:25 am)

Thanks, eldaino.
I look forward to test drive the Si out. I am a manual shift guy (I haven't own an automatic in over 15 years)so it will be great.
Now back to Mazda3. I have read that maintenance on that car can be expensive. I read somewhere too that its hard to find the 17" tires that fit. Normal 17" tires don't fit well with the Mazda3, is that true?
Sandman, any problems with your Mazda at all?
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Re: Which One [sonnyrocker] by eldaino
Jun 13, 2007 (5:45 am)
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Replying to: sonnyrocker (Jun 13, 2007 5:39 am)

i don't think that its so much hard to find as it is they are an...'interesting' size. 205/50 R17 i think. most 17's pack AT LEAST 215's (like the si) and a lot have 225's (like newer vee dubs.)
 
My mother in laws maintanence on her mazda 6 has been expensive, but we have some pretty crappy mazda dealers around here. But then again, i know some people who do it themselves and have no issues. Honda service is usually easy and not expensive when compared to other automakers. at least you run less of a chance of going in for unscheduled maintanence!
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Re: Which One [sonnyrocker] by bpizzuti
Jun 13, 2007 (7:38 am)
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Replying to: sonnyrocker (Jun 13, 2007 5:39 am)

Tires for the Mazda3s are very easy to find, as there are other popular models that use the same size tire.
 
Unfortunately, most of those models are made by BMW, so the tires are expensive.
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Re: Which One [eldaino] by mrblonde49
Jun 13, 2007 (9:28 am)
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Replying to: eldaino (Jun 13, 2007 5:45 am)

i don't think that its so much hard to find as it is they are an...'interesting' size. 205/50 R17 i think. most 17's pack AT LEAST 215's (like the si) and a lot have 225's (like newer vee dubs.) "
 
You can also use 215's with no issue. I will be ordering that size at the end of the summer because I want the Falken Ziex 512 and they don't sell 205's

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