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Re: plenty of power at high RPMs [iomatic] by eldaino
May 11, 2007 (8:16 am)
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Replying to: iomatic (May 10, 2007 12:55 pm)

my Si is plenty riced-out.
 
really hope that was sarcastic!
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rice and beans by iomatic
May 11, 2007 (2:12 pm)
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Meant to say, stock: it's riced-out enough for me.
 
 
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Re: rice and beans [iomatic] by eldaino
May 13, 2007 (2:59 am)
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Replying to: iomatic (May 11, 2007 2:12 pm)

phew! thats cool...i think that the si is agreat car despite the fact that i think honda knew it was pitching it to a crowd who would want to tune it up.
 
i remember when i had my ex four door, one of the things my friends told me was that it looked sportier than any civic they had ever seen...sportier than the previous si hatchback (which was easy to understand.), but it didn't ooze 'put a muffler on me!' and that most kids would be disuaded from doing so.
 
having said that, even though its still to a lesser extent, you do still see people trying to 'rice' it up; leaving my work the other day, a girl drving an otherwise nice 2 door ralley red si stopped and had 18 or 19 inch chrome rims.
 
she saw me looking at her car and i made it strongly apparent that i did not agree!
 
she looked a bit flustered, as would anyone who thinks thats a smart thing to do.
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2007 by tehjuice
May 23, 2007 (6:38 pm)
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Did anyone do a 2007 comparison. This thread is gigantic now and I have read bits and pieces.
 
2007 Honda Civic LX versus 2007 Mazda3 i-touring with SAB/SAC package.
 
got the mazda dealer down to 17.7k out the door. Honda dealer wouldn't move off of 19k out the door.
 
(I was also looking at a 2007 Toyota corolla sport -- very nice car, but i like the civic and mazda 3 better)
 
I think I will be happy with both.
 
Seems like there are only a few differences.
 
1) MPG - seems like the real world difference is slight, also getting the mazda for cheaper. so this is not really a factor anymore.
 
2) Acceleration - the civic seemed to have slightly better acceleration. Is this true? how do the 0-60 times compare. I know the mazda packs a few more hp.
 
3) Handling - mazda seemed better, but i didn't go crazy here.
 
4) The mazda3 seems more "different" I always feel like i see civics around.
 
5) I really liked the interior of the mazda, very stylish.
 
thoughts? I am buying one of these tomorrow.
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Re: 2007 [tehjuice] by eldaino
May 24, 2007 (5:50 am)
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Replying to: tehjuice (May 23, 2007 6:38 pm)

got the mazda dealer down to 17.7k out the door. Honda dealer wouldn't move off of 19k out the door.
 
i think its easier to negotiate on the 2.0 i, since its the 2.3 that is the 'hot' model. Still 19k seems kinda steep for an lx...are there any options on it?
 
The 3i i think can usually be had with alloy wheels, is this the case with the one you are looking at? The lx has rear drums and no alloys, but the tires are the same size as the ex.

1) MPG - seems like the real world difference is slight, also getting the mazda for cheaper. so this is not really a factor anymore.

 
go to fueleconomy.gov and look up the numbers for both of these cars....while there is a significant difference between the 2.3 and the civics engine, the 2.0 closes this gap a bit more, the civic only gets 2mpg better in the city...but the highway difference is pretty big more mpg. Pretty good considering the 2.0 doesn't really offer you that much more with regards to power and torque.
 
2) Acceleration - the civic seemed to have slightly better acceleration. Is this true? how do the 0-60 times compare. I know the mazda packs a few more hp.
 
again, its not that much more. Heck, edmunds compared the 2.3 to the the civc, and still thought the civic held its own, despite the fairly large hp/displacement disadvantage. The 2.0 is to a lesser degree, it only has a few more hp and a few more lbs of torque, nothing ultra noticable. (in otherwords, it wouldn't be like comparing the 2.3 to the 1.8 in the civic.) SO, similar power, better mpg with the civic. Acceleration times should be similar, both are sub-9 second cars, the manual transmission civic (non si) was clocked by car and driver at 7.7 seconds 0-60, which is just a tad slower than the civic si sedan.
 
4) The mazda3 seems more "different" I always feel like i see civics around
 
this can be argued either way...different doesn't neccesarily mean which one do you see more often, but which one breaks the compact car mold more? The civic, even if you do see it more often, is very uniquely shaped, inside and out, and looks like nothing else on the road. The 3, while still being a VERY good looking vehicle, especially in hatch form, has a more traditional approach to styling, and in my eyes, is more 'normal'.
 
I hope this helps and good luck with your purchase, you will be happy either way, they are both GREAT cars!
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Re: 2007 [eldaino] by aviboy97
May 24, 2007 (11:06 am)
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Replying to: eldaino (May 24, 2007 5:50 am)

i think its easier to negotiate on the 2.0 i, since its the 2.3 that is the 'hot' model. Still 19k seems kinda steep for an lx...are there any options on it?
 
Actually, it is quite the opposite. The Mazda3 i is tougher to get right now. Inventory on s models is higher then the i models in most cases.
 
go to fueleconomy.gov and look up the numbers for both of these cars....while there is a significant difference between the 2.3 and the civics engine, the 2.0 closes this gap a bit more, the civic only gets 2mpg better in the city...but the highway difference is pretty big more mpg
 
He is not shopping the 2.3L, only the 2.0L. The 2.0L Mazda is not too far off from the 1.8L Honda.
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Sentra Spec V by bullardohio
May 24, 2007 (5:12 pm)
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I've driven the Civic SI sedan, & liked it alot. Am going to test drive a Sentra Spec V this weekend - hopefully. Has anyone driven one of these yet, & how does it stack up to the SI?
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Mazda Vs. Civic (considering the age group) by zoomzoomnole
Jun 09, 2007 (2:37 pm)
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Coming from a 20 year old, I prefer the Mazda to the Civic any day. I've driven/ridden in a Civic and while I really like the split instrument panel..it just feels like a middle aged person's car. I could see my parents driving it. It reminded me of my dad's Ford Taurus. And I'm not saying by any means that the Civic is a crappy car, its a REALLY good car. Its nice...it just feels boring to me. Where as the Mazda has fun styling, amazing handling, and they stick out in a row of cars. Like I said, this is all just an opinion from someone in the market that these cars are targeting to. Maybe that's more what the comparison was considering. Obviously the Civic is a better family car, but for a college kid like me, the Mazda wins.
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Re: Mazda Vs. Civic (considering the age group) [zoomzoomnole] by thegraduate
Jun 09, 2007 (3:08 pm)
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Replying to: zoomzoomnole (Jun 09, 2007 2:37 pm)

Obviously the Civic is a better family car, but for a college kid like me, the Mazda wins.
 
Haha, just goes to show how much opinions can differ. I'm a college kid myself, and think the Mazda 3 is a very nice, great handling, very conventional looking sedan. The Civic has a style to it that Mazda doesn't. The Civic isn't derivative looking, something I can't say for the 3.
 
I've driven both, and know completely that the Mazda 3 is a great handler, but the Civic is too (capable of probably 90% of what the Mazda is). Add in the fact that the Civic's tires don't scream when driving down the interstate, and the interior isn't incredibly dark (the Mazda 3s I drove was blue outside, BLACK inside. Very dour looking, and lacking in contrast.
 
For a college kid like me, the Honda wins. Just goes to show that there are different attitudes in each category of people sa well. I commute to school everyday on a rough interstate, and the drone of the road noise would just be a bit much, when coupled with the bumpier suspension.
 
By the way, i'm not a Civic owner (at 6'4", both are a bit small for me to live with every day).
 
Have a great weekend...
 
TheGrad
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Re: by zoomzoomnole
Jun 09, 2007 (6:40 pm)
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Ah, well, everyone has their own opinion especially when it comes to cars. I don't have to commute to school, so I don't have to worry about the "screaming" on the highway. And I hate light interior. So the dark isn't an issue for me.
 
I was just saying in general the Mazda is more fun than the Civic, which is probably a little more practical. And I think when the comparison was written (I saw a lot of people complaining) it was written from the POV of people who would be looking for a more fun, sporty-er car.
 
I mean I see kids around campus with these giant trucks and I'm wondering how anyone would squeeze those into the tiny parking spaces, but hey, i guess that's their thing.

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