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Re: Brand new K20 4-door [iomatic] by eldaino
May 08, 2007 (8:01 am)
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Replying to: iomatic (May 07, 2007 2:20 pm)

who the guy in the rabbit? or one of the other ones?
 
i must say i would never do such a thing, seeing as how my rabbit is only slightly quicker than my old 06 ex,
 
...funny thing is, i've seen numbers for manual tranmission ex's and 4 door si's and they are not to far apart...
 
(7.7, 7.1) at least thats not HUGE to me...i dunno, have you ever timed yourself iomatic?
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May 08, 2007 (9:41 am)
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Re: Brand new K20 4-door [eldaino] by aviboy97
May 09, 2007 (8:55 am)
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Replying to: eldaino (May 08, 2007 8:01 am)

i've seen numbers for manual tranmission ex's and 4 door si's and they are not to far apart...
  
(7.7, 7.1) at least thats not HUGE to me

 
The power advantage is seen over 60mph in the Si vs the EX, LX etc....remember, torque gets you going, and neither really have any. Once you are at a higher speed, the HP takes over. That is where you will see the difference.
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Re: Brand new K20 4-door [aviboy97] by eldaino
May 09, 2007 (4:37 pm)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (May 09, 2007 8:55 am)

oh yes i totally know that...but on both cars have engines that have this style of power delivery, one just has a lot more than the other.
 
having said that, i figured the difference would be bigger, it just does not look like it, although i'm sure if feels like it. I averaged about high 8's low 9's with my old civic, but it was an auto.
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plenty of power at high RPMs by iomatic
May 10, 2007 (12:55 pm)
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Sure feels like it; and though I know the advantages of the Honda platform, my Si is plenty riced-out.
 
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Re: plenty of power at high RPMs [iomatic] by eldaino
May 11, 2007 (8:16 am)
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Replying to: iomatic (May 10, 2007 12:55 pm)

my Si is plenty riced-out.
 
really hope that was sarcastic!
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rice and beans by iomatic
May 11, 2007 (2:12 pm)
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Meant to say, stock: it's riced-out enough for me.
 
 
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Re: rice and beans [iomatic] by eldaino
May 13, 2007 (2:59 am)
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Replying to: iomatic (May 11, 2007 2:12 pm)

phew! thats cool...i think that the si is agreat car despite the fact that i think honda knew it was pitching it to a crowd who would want to tune it up.
 
i remember when i had my ex four door, one of the things my friends told me was that it looked sportier than any civic they had ever seen...sportier than the previous si hatchback (which was easy to understand.), but it didn't ooze 'put a muffler on me!' and that most kids would be disuaded from doing so.
 
having said that, even though its still to a lesser extent, you do still see people trying to 'rice' it up; leaving my work the other day, a girl drving an otherwise nice 2 door ralley red si stopped and had 18 or 19 inch chrome rims.
 
she saw me looking at her car and i made it strongly apparent that i did not agree!
 
she looked a bit flustered, as would anyone who thinks thats a smart thing to do.
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2007 by tehjuice
May 23, 2007 (6:38 pm)
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Did anyone do a 2007 comparison. This thread is gigantic now and I have read bits and pieces.
 
2007 Honda Civic LX versus 2007 Mazda3 i-touring with SAB/SAC package.
 
got the mazda dealer down to 17.7k out the door. Honda dealer wouldn't move off of 19k out the door.
 
(I was also looking at a 2007 Toyota corolla sport -- very nice car, but i like the civic and mazda 3 better)
 
I think I will be happy with both.
 
Seems like there are only a few differences.
 
1) MPG - seems like the real world difference is slight, also getting the mazda for cheaper. so this is not really a factor anymore.
 
2) Acceleration - the civic seemed to have slightly better acceleration. Is this true? how do the 0-60 times compare. I know the mazda packs a few more hp.
 
3) Handling - mazda seemed better, but i didn't go crazy here.
 
4) The mazda3 seems more "different" I always feel like i see civics around.
 
5) I really liked the interior of the mazda, very stylish.
 
thoughts? I am buying one of these tomorrow.
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Re: 2007 [tehjuice] by eldaino
May 24, 2007 (5:50 am)
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Replying to: tehjuice (May 23, 2007 6:38 pm)

got the mazda dealer down to 17.7k out the door. Honda dealer wouldn't move off of 19k out the door.
 
i think its easier to negotiate on the 2.0 i, since its the 2.3 that is the 'hot' model. Still 19k seems kinda steep for an lx...are there any options on it?
 
The 3i i think can usually be had with alloy wheels, is this the case with the one you are looking at? The lx has rear drums and no alloys, but the tires are the same size as the ex.

1) MPG - seems like the real world difference is slight, also getting the mazda for cheaper. so this is not really a factor anymore.

 
go to fueleconomy.gov and look up the numbers for both of these cars....while there is a significant difference between the 2.3 and the civics engine, the 2.0 closes this gap a bit more, the civic only gets 2mpg better in the city...but the highway difference is pretty big more mpg. Pretty good considering the 2.0 doesn't really offer you that much more with regards to power and torque.
 
2) Acceleration - the civic seemed to have slightly better acceleration. Is this true? how do the 0-60 times compare. I know the mazda packs a few more hp.
 
again, its not that much more. Heck, edmunds compared the 2.3 to the the civc, and still thought the civic held its own, despite the fairly large hp/displacement disadvantage. The 2.0 is to a lesser degree, it only has a few more hp and a few more lbs of torque, nothing ultra noticable. (in otherwords, it wouldn't be like comparing the 2.3 to the 1.8 in the civic.) SO, similar power, better mpg with the civic. Acceleration times should be similar, both are sub-9 second cars, the manual transmission civic (non si) was clocked by car and driver at 7.7 seconds 0-60, which is just a tad slower than the civic si sedan.
 
4) The mazda3 seems more "different" I always feel like i see civics around
 
this can be argued either way...different doesn't neccesarily mean which one do you see more often, but which one breaks the compact car mold more? The civic, even if you do see it more often, is very uniquely shaped, inside and out, and looks like nothing else on the road. The 3, while still being a VERY good looking vehicle, especially in hatch form, has a more traditional approach to styling, and in my eyes, is more 'normal'.
 
I hope this helps and good luck with your purchase, you will be happy either way, they are both GREAT cars!

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