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Honda Civic vs Mazda3

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Re: Impreza wagon instead... [rorr] by aviboy97
Apr 25, 2007 (9:01 am)
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Replying to: rorr (Apr 25, 2007 7:35 am)

Well, we have not had to shell out any money for the repairs, so, it has not been a big deal. Subarus have up to 60K on the warranty, and my fiance has a 100K bumper to bumper warranty. All repairs have been recent. Tt has been great up until the last year or so. We will see how it holds up from now on out.
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Stability Control by cchicago
Apr 27, 2007 (5:48 pm)
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I recently purchased a Mazda3 GT Hatch. I decided not to consider the Civic because it is not currently offered with stability control. I really think this is a great lifesaving feature. Since I keep my cars for a long time, I didn't want to go without it for the next 10 years.
 
From what I have read the Civic is a fine car with very good gas mileage. I would have seriously considered it had it offered this important safety feature.
 
The other reason I went with the 3 is that I wanted the versatility of the hatch. I have always owned sedans before and there has always been some box I couldn't fit in the trunk opening or in the back seat. I have already carried some large boxes in the hatch with no problem.
 
I don't drive a lot so the gas mileage issue was less important for me. If we really wanted to save gas we would do even better if we could get all those pickup trucks and SUVs from 10-12mpg to 18-20mpg. The way we measure gas mileage in this country understates that level of improvement. An increase from 10mpg to 20mpg is 100%, going from 20mpg to 30mpg is only a 50% improvement, and 30mpg to 40mpg is only 33%. Ok off the soapbox now.
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Change by glideslopes
Apr 27, 2007 (6:07 pm)
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Having owned a 00 Protege 5-Speed manual, then a 03 6s 5-Speed manual. I was at a cross road. I really did not want to have an 08 6 with the new 265 hp V6 with gas being between 3-4 per gal this time next year. So, I drove a 3 then a Civic EX, then the 3 again, followed by the Civic EX sedan again, and so on.........
 
The Civic's Engine Technology and MPG with the 5 speed AT were too much. I felt the interior material, especially the carpet and seat covering were superior on the Civic EX.
 
I don't like the dash on the Civic, but it was a compromise. The handling was fine for me. Nothing like the Razor Edge of my 6s, but ok now that I'm nearing 50.
 
The Civic will most likely be worth around 60% of its MSRP after 5 years. You won't come anywhere near that with the 3.
 
The above are the subjective opinions of an aging enthusiast. Others results may vary.
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Re: Change [glideslopes] by backy
Apr 27, 2007 (6:36 pm)
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Replying to: glideslopes (Apr 27, 2007 6:07 pm)

The Mazda3 seems to be holding its value well so far. Like the Civic, the 3 has had few incentives/rebates during its history, and few are sold to fleets. And it remains a desirable car, acknowledged as one of the top cars in its class. So I am not as pessimistic about the 3's resale value.
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Re: Change [backy] by glideslopes
Apr 28, 2007 (4:48 am)
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Replying to: backy (Apr 27, 2007 6:36 pm)

Agreed. I should have left that out.
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Re: Change [glideslopes] by aviboy97
Apr 28, 2007 (10:24 am)
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Replying to: glideslopes (Apr 27, 2007 6:07 pm)

The Civic will most likely be worth around 60% of its MSRP after 5 years. You won't come anywhere near that with the 3.
 
60% is a bit high. I just took on trade today, a 2006 Civic EX Coupe 5-speed w/27K for $12,500. Original MSRP was $19,305. It lost 35% of its value in 1 year. Granted, this is trade value, and the miles are 20K high.
 
Mazda3 and Civic seem to be holding similar resale value.
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Re: Stability Control [cchicago] by wam161
Apr 30, 2007 (2:54 pm)
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Replying to: cchicago (Apr 27, 2007 5:48 pm)

I too just purchased a Mazda3 Hatch. The Civic was the car to beat by my judgment. After extensive research, and several test drives I determined both were excellent cars. I ended up with the Mazda3 for many of the same reasons. It offered a hatch. It had stability control. It felt sportier. It offered a few more luxury features such as leather and automatic climate controls.
 
To anyone shopping these two cars, I will recommend thinking about how important gas mileage is to you. So far I have gotten approximately 25.5 MPG in my 3. The car hasn't quite been broken in yet, so I assume I will do a little better than that. Yet, The Civic would probably trounce the 3 in fuel economy. I knew this going in, so I'm not too dissapointed. I've been reading that Civic owners really aren't totally getting the EPA suggested MPG either.
 
I hope this helps potential buyers. Basically the 3 is sporty and has more character. If you want to play it safe though, the Civic would probably be a better choice for overall practicality. For me, the 3 had what I needed.
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Re: Stability Control [wam161] by aviboy97
May 02, 2007 (6:33 am)
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Replying to: wam161 (Apr 30, 2007 2:54 pm)

I've been reading that Civic owners really aren't totally getting the EPA suggested MPG either.
 
I have read that a lot of Civic owners are averaging 30mpg. Better then the 3? Yes. But, not as good at the original EPA estimates.
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Re: Stability Control [aviboy97] by thegraduate
May 02, 2007 (5:50 pm)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (May 02, 2007 6:33 am)

That's actually right in the middle of the new EPA estimates, I believe. The Mazda's dropped to 23/31 I think, while the Civic dropped to 25/36 or somethingl like that.
 
Check out fueleconomy.gov for the full list of models' mileage.
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Re: Stability Control [thegraduate] by eldaino
May 04, 2007 (6:45 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (May 02, 2007 5:50 pm)

for the civic, you are spot on, but the new numbers for an auto 2.3 (hatch or sedan) are:
 
22/29. the manual gets 22/30 (which is funny, cause thats what my rabbit used to epa for.)
 
quite a differance between the civc and mazda.
 
in the mazdas favor though, the 2.0 gets 23/31, the manual achieving 24/32.
 
the number for the 2.0 i's mpg is interesting, as it dropped 4 mpg in the city. (from 28-24.) suddenly the civics 5mpg drop isn't such a huge crime. the same can be said of the 2.3, which in manual guise, dropped 4mpg as well. (from 26 to 22.)

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