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1333 messages, Last post on Jun 06, 2008 at 5:37 PM
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Apr 25, 2007 7:16 am) I'd hate to see what you called UNreliable..... 
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i actually have a soft spot for em too (my first car was an 83 gl sedan, non awd.) and i actually like the way the new imprezas look. (despite the chrysler-ish grill which if it hadn't been mentioned i don't think i would have noticed.), but i think subaru made a big mistake making no real powertrain advancments, and they are still using a 4 speed auto. Granted the chassis is lighter, so fuel economy should hopefully go up and the newer suspension tweaks will more than likely get rid of all that body roll. The interiors are nicer too. sorry. back to civic vs 3. |
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Replying to: rorr (Apr 25, 2007 7:35 am) |
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I recently purchased a Mazda3 GT Hatch. I decided not to consider the Civic because it is not currently offered with stability control. I really think this is a great lifesaving feature. Since I keep my cars for a long time, I didn't want to go without it for the next 10 years. From what I have read the Civic is a fine car with very good gas mileage. I would have seriously considered it had it offered this important safety feature. The other reason I went with the 3 is that I wanted the versatility of the hatch. I have always owned sedans before and there has always been some box I couldn't fit in the trunk opening or in the back seat. I have already carried some large boxes in the hatch with no problem.  I don't drive a lot so the gas mileage issue was less important for me. If we really wanted to save gas we would do even better if we could get all those pickup trucks and SUVs from 10-12mpg to 18-20mpg. The way we measure gas mileage in this country understates that level of improvement. An increase from 10mpg to 20mpg is 100%, going from 20mpg to 30mpg is only a 50% improvement, and 30mpg to 40mpg is only 33%. Ok off the soapbox now. 
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Having owned a 00 Protege 5-Speed manual, then a 03 6s 5-Speed manual. I was at a cross road. I really did not want to have an 08 6 with the new 265 hp V6 with gas being between 3-4 per gal this time next year. So, I drove a 3 then a Civic EX, then the 3 again, followed by the Civic EX sedan again, and so on......... The Civic's Engine Technology and MPG with the 5 speed AT were too much. I felt the interior material, especially the carpet and seat covering were superior on the Civic EX. I don't like the dash on the Civic, but it was a compromise. The handling was fine for me. Nothing like the Razor Edge of my 6s, but ok now that I'm nearing 50. The Civic will most likely be worth around 60% of its MSRP after 5 years. You won't come anywhere near that with the 3. The above are the subjective opinions of an aging enthusiast. Others results may vary.
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Replying to: glideslopes (Apr 27, 2007 6:07 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Apr 27, 2007 6:36 pm) |
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Replying to: glideslopes (Apr 27, 2007 6:07 pm) 60% is a bit high. I just took on trade today, a 2006 Civic EX Coupe 5-speed w/27K for $12,500. Original MSRP was $19,305. It lost 35% of its value in 1 year. Granted, this is trade value, and the miles are 20K high. Mazda3 and Civic seem to be holding similar resale value. |
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Replying to: cchicago (Apr 27, 2007 5:48 pm) To anyone shopping these two cars, I will recommend thinking about how important gas mileage is to you. So far I have gotten approximately 25.5 MPG in my 3. The car hasn't quite been broken in yet, so I assume I will do a little better than that. Yet, The Civic would probably trounce the 3 in fuel economy. I knew this going in, so I'm not too dissapointed. I've been reading that Civic owners really aren't totally getting the EPA suggested MPG either. I hope this helps potential buyers. Basically the 3 is sporty and has more character. If you want to play it safe though, the Civic would probably be a better choice for overall practicality. For me, the 3 had what I needed.
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Replying to: wam161 (Apr 30, 2007 2:54 pm) I have read that a lot of Civic owners are averaging 30mpg. Better then the 3? Yes. But, not as good at the original EPA estimates.
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