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#1130 of 1333 Re: mazda hatch and sedan [rwh] by aviboy97 Apr 24, 2007 (1:09 pm)
Replying to: rwh (Apr 24, 2007 10:49 am) I also liked the 4 wheel disk ABS on the EX.   4 wheel disc brakes are std. on all Mazda3's. ABS is std. on all Mazda3 s models. You must buy the ABS/side air bag package on the Mazda3 i for $398, which makes the Mazda3 i the same price as the Civic LX. Replies to this message: rwh (Apr 24, 2007 1:44 pm)
#1131 of 1333 Re: mazda hatch and sedan [aviboy97] by rwh Apr 24, 2007 (1:44 pm)
Replying to: aviboy97 (Apr 24, 2007 1:09 pm) Yes, after I posted I knew someone would call me on the 4 wheel disk ABS statement. I'm still leaning toward buying the Honda. I just think it's a little better car for a little more money.
#1132 of 1333 Impreza wagon instead... by mugwomp Apr 24, 2007 (9:03 pm)
I'd take a used Impreza wagon over either. Subaru's handling is much more solid than either of the FWD cars, no comparison. The Mazda3 is a nice car, just test drove one yesterday, but the Subaru, though with less gizmos and goodies, feels like a more solid car and Subaru is known for wonderful handling and it shows... The Civic and M3 are too low powered to suffer from torque steer but the worse MPGs and extra cost are worth not having the feel of being dragged around everywhere by your front wheels alone. Very nice, indeed. Between Subaru's handling, the Impreza's rally heritage, and their reliability/quality - I'd seriously consider them over the other two... Replies to this message: eldaino (Apr 25, 2007 4:45 am) aviboy97 (Apr 25, 2007 7:16 am) rorr (Apr 25, 2007 7:35 am) aviboy97 (Apr 25, 2007 9:01 am)
#1133 of 1333 Re: Impreza wagon instead... [mugwomp] by eldaino Apr 25, 2007 (4:45 am)
Replying to: mugwomp (Apr 24, 2007 9:03 pm) if you are talking about the current subarue impreza, it feels kinda ancient, even tho i like the way it looks and its fuel economy is worse than the 3 and much worse than the civic.   Both mazda and honda have impressive sports heritage.   As far as handling goes i agree...to a certain extent. Subies are usually shod with all season tires; muting much of the performance aspect of having standard awd, and emphasising more on safe driving through inclement weather...something both the 3 and civc can do just fine.
#1134 of 1333 Re: leaning toward the Honda [hugh5] by eldaino Apr 25, 2007 (4:46 am)
Replying to: hugh5 (Apr 24, 2007 10:30 am) agreed. If we had the engine of the csx here (which is actually a the same k20 in the new si but tuned for midrange torque rather than high horspower, it resides in the old si hatch and the base rsx of old.), it would be awesome; comparable power and acceleration to the 3s, and better mileage!   I think the csx looks significantly better than the usdm civic, probably because its just a rebadged jdm model.
#1135 of 1333 Re: leaning toward the Honda [rwh] by eldaino Apr 25, 2007 (4:48 am)
Replying to: rwh (Apr 24, 2007 1:00 pm) Ah i see. Still disagree with her statment (i think its the most radical looking mass marketed car) but i know how an opinion of wife can be, wether she's graphic artist or not!   I don't blame you for leaning towards the honda. Wether you chose the 3 or civic, you'll be content, but my experience with the civic would def. allow me to highly reccomend the car.
#1136 of 1333 Re: mazda hatch and sedan [rwh] by mrblonde49 Apr 25, 2007 (5:25 am)
Replying to: rwh (Apr 24, 2007 10:49 am) I also liked the 4 wheel disk ABS on the EX. "   Would be better if Honda would offer stability control too...
#1137 of 1333 speaking of subaru by rwh Apr 25, 2007 (5:40 am)
The Forester and Outback Sport were also on my short list. I've always liked Subarus. I don't think I'm going to test drive either because the AWD, while great, isn't something I need right now. In a few years when my kids are grown and I have more time, I could see getting a small Subaru for bike, canoe and kayak trips. They're also great for driving in the mountains and we usually take one ski trip out west each year.   Aslo, my mechanic told me Toyota bought a big stake in Fuji Heavy Industries and expects Subaru technology to start showing up in future Toyotas. So who knows what will be available in a couple of years.   When it comes right down to it, if I were leaning toward the Mazda3 wagon I think I would also strongly have to consider either of the small Subarus if I just had to have a wagon. The gas mileage for the AWD Subaru is nearly the same as for the Mazda3 wagon (22-29 vs 23-31) and you get AWD.   But I'm off topic. Leaning even closer to the Honda today. Funny thing though, while the Mazda and Toyota salesmen have called me back, the Honda guy hasn't. Not that I want any more conversations with car salesmen than necessary.
#1138 of 1333 Re: Impreza wagon instead... [mugwomp] by aviboy97 Apr 25, 2007 (7:16 am)
Replying to: mugwomp (Apr 24, 2007 9:03 pm) The Impreza has quite a bit of body roll (I own a '02 Impreza 2.5 RS). The AWD system is fantastic, however, that does not always translate into better handling on dry pavement. The body roll negates the AWD advantage. My Mazda6 handles better the the Impreza. On a dirt track, since you brought up rally heritage, the AWD makes in handle better due to drifting, where FWD has no control.   The Civic and M3 are too low powered to suffer from torque steer but the worse MPGs and extra cost are worth not having the feel of being dragged around everywhere by your front wheels alone   I would disagree with that. The power in both Civic and Mazda3 are plenty. These are "economy cars". The Impreza is not. It's a very thirsty vehicle. I just drove to DC from Connecticut (took 6 hrs) and I was getting 25mpg. Not to mention how loud the engine is, and the upholdstry is falling apart.   If we were to compare how these vehicle do in snow, that is a different story. Hands down the Impreza wins. As I said, the AWD system is phenomenal.   The Subaru has been reliable, however, I have replaced both head gaskets, fuel lines, exhaust shield, clock and stereo shorted out (not a blown fuse) and now it slams into 2nd gear (automatic tranny). I only have 60K on it. My fiance is thinking about replacing it with the new '08 Impreza, she just love the AWD, and I can't blame her for that. We live in Connecticut and get some nasty winters. Replies to this message: rorr (Apr 25, 2007 7:35 am) aviboy97 (Apr 25, 2007 9:01 am)
#1139 of 1333 Re: Impreza wagon instead... [aviboy97] by rorr Apr 25, 2007 (7:35 am)
Replying to: aviboy97 (Apr 25, 2007 7:16 am) "The Subaru has been reliable, however, I have replaced both head gaskets, fuel lines, exhaust shield, clock and stereo shorted out (not a blown fuse) and now it slams into 2nd gear (automatic tranny). I only have 60K on it."   I'd hate to see what you called UNreliable..... Replies to this message: aviboy97 (Apr 25, 2007 9:01 am)

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