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Sedans Honda Civic Honda Civic vs Mazda3
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Apr 24, 2007 5:50 am) its less evident with the 2.0i, but no one really writes home about that engine in the 3 and a lot of the sporty appeal goes out the window. I had forgotten why i couldn't justify gettin a 3 hatch over my rabbit...i remember now. My mileage figures match that of the mazda. |
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Replying to: rwh (Apr 24, 2007 7:30 am) Agreed. Fuel economy is one of the disappointments of the Mazda3 wagon. The increased engine size and additional weight of the car, have compromised the Mazda 3s's fuel economy. The predecessor to the Mazda3 wagon, the Protege5, achieved the same fuel economy rating 5 years ago. Hopefully Mazda will get on the lighter is better bandwagon eventually. Building a lighter car does not mean less comfortable or decontented. TIP: When comparing cars check their curb weight. A small vehicle that exceeds 3000# should be penalized by consumers. Manufacturers should be aiming for 2500# or less for small cars. |
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Replying to: autonomous (Apr 24, 2007 8:54 am)
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Replying to: eldaino (Apr 24, 2007 8:55 am)
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Replying to: autonomous (Apr 24, 2007 8:54 am) The Protege5 also had only 132 hp , not 156....and it was a smaller displacement engine. If anything, the Mazda3 hatch had improved due to more power, bigger displacement, and still got around 30pmg....
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Replying to: rwh (Apr 23, 2007 12:02 pm)
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Yes, the Mazda3 hatch and the Mazda3s sedan have the same mileage ratings. They also have the same 2.3 engine. The ratings I saw on the door sticker last weekend were 25/31. I'm not buying a car only based on gas mileage, but it is a big factor, otherwise I would buy a pick up truck or SUV. If I'm going to buy a small car I want it to be fuel efficient. I like the Mazda, but the Honda felt like a little better car to me. And I like getting a 5 speed AT without having to buy a bigger engine. I also liked the 4 wheel disk ABS on the EX.
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| Oops. I think the sticker was 23/31. | |
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Apr 24, 2007 10:15 am) Both the Mazda3 hatch and Protege5 (from 5 years ago) have identical combined fuel economy ratings of 25 mpg (source: Consumer Reports). So, no improvement in fuel economy. The Mazda3 gained its additional power from a larger 2.3L engine; no surprise. The Mazda3 base sedan is more impressive than the hatch for that reason; it bumped up the power and torque while using the same 2.0L displacement as the Protege ES sedan. We need more efficient not larger engines. More efficient engines produce more power and more torque in smaller (lighter) displacement "boxes". Adding weight is the wrong way of getting more power in these days of climate change. As one simple example, why are car seats designed to be so heavy? Do consumers want to drive sofas? Some recent Mazda prototypes point to new options, with seats made of lighter materials that swivel. Let's applaud the designs that give us what we want: lighter more functional cars. |
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