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Re: Interesting.... [aviboy97] by aviboy97
Mar 07, 2007 (11:58 am)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Mar 07, 2007 7:24 am)

My point was that Honda over estimated its mpg. I always thought 30/40 was a bit far fetched. I really do not believe everyone who was saying that they were getting 35-40+ mpg.The new EPA adjusted estimates are more in line with what the car really does. Still, the 2.0L Mazda get fuel economy right on par with Honda's 1.8L while producing more power. Granted, its not much, just a few measly ponies and pound feet.
 
The Mazda3 2.0 does only come with a 4-speed tranny, where the Honda Civic does have the 5-speed.
 
My 1991 Honda Accord with the 2.2L never got more then 24-25mpg average. Granted, this was before VTEC and the advanced engine technology we have today.
 
My old 1.6L Celica only got 26-27mpg average as well.
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Re: Interesting.... [aviboy97] by thegraduate
Mar 07, 2007 (12:06 pm)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Mar 07, 2007 11:58 am)

My 1991 Honda Accord with the 2.2L never got more then 24-25mpg average. Granted, this was before VTEC and the advanced engine technology we have today.
 
This was a time when the best seller Ford Taurus had a 2.5L 4-cylinder with 105 horsepower and a 3-speed Automatic and got 21/27 MPG. The Accord had 130 hp and got something like 24/30 MPG I believe (22/28 with Automatic).
 
I'm getting really off topic here though, I apologize. Back to the compacts of THIS millenium.
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Re: Interesting.... [aviboy97] by eldaino
Mar 08, 2007 (8:09 am)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Mar 07, 2007 11:58 am)

My point was that Honda over estimated its mpg.
 
Honda NEVER overestimates its mpg; the epa does.
 
The 2.0 mazda 3 is said to get 23/31 according to the new epa. The civic gets 25/36. Maybe on par in the city, but five miles to the gallon more on the highway is a heck of a lot. My numbers with my civic were on par with the old AND new numbers. I regularly averaged 26-28 in the city and 38 on the highway.
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Re: Interesting.... [godaddy1] by eldaino
Mar 08, 2007 (8:13 am)
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Replying to: godaddy1 (Mar 07, 2007 9:58 am)

agreed with what grad said; the civic seems to be just as light on its feet if not lighter than the 2.0 mazda 3. (remember at the beggining of this thread when we were still going on about how a decked i touring would have been more on par with a civic ex?)
 
those relatively small increases in power usuall mean it 'feels' faster, but acually isn't. (i.e. the mazda 2.0 'feels' better merging onto the freeway than the civic, even if you are only going fractions of a second quiker.)
 
i never had any problems merging. Its fun to wring the engine. Not that you have to do it to get the same perfomance out of it to be on par with the 2.0. Besides its in high rpms that the civic gets nice.
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Re: well despite EVERYTHING! [thegraduate] by savvyboy
Mar 08, 2007 (6:48 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Feb 26, 2007 2:34 pm)

(shh...I have a '97 626 with over 167,000 miles on it and have only replaced normal wear items...is a daily driver and runs like a top)
 
(shh shh...if I want boring I'll be sure to pick up an Accord)
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Re: well despite EVERYTHING! [savvyboy] by thegraduate
Mar 08, 2007 (8:06 pm)
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Replying to: savvyboy (Mar 08, 2007 6:48 pm)

(Shh shh... if I want obnoxious I'll be sure to make posts like that)
 
Seriously, why make a post like that? Just like to find a post and knock it, regardless if it fits in the conversation or not?
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Re: well despite EVERYTHING! [thegraduate] by savvyboy
Mar 08, 2007 (8:30 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Mar 08, 2007 8:06 pm)

(shh shh shh... starting posts with "(shh..anything)" defines the term "obnoxious")
 
The substance of your message was that Honda reliability trumps Mazda. I brought up stats that are contrary to your "anecdata". The purpose of the post seems plain enough.
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Re: well despite EVERYTHING! [savvyboy] by thegraduate
Mar 08, 2007 (9:08 pm)
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Replying to: savvyboy (Mar 08, 2007 8:30 pm)

If you'll notice, you are taking my comments out of context in a conversation that took place a while ago. I didn't start the "shh" thing, it was simply between me and eldiano (i responded to his "shh"). I said nothing about Mazda.
 
The substance of your message was that Honda reliability trumps Mazda
 
The substance of my message was that Honda reliability was good in my case. I said nothing of Mazdas merits, either good or bad.
 
I asked, jokingly at the time, in the context of people being tired of reliability ratings, that "what should I get if I want the most reliable car?" Someone said "get a Honda" to which I responded "I did."
 
I said nothing of Mazda, so don't imply that I did please.
 
I'm not sure why I'm bothering posting my reasons, since you didn't bother to look at what I actually said in the first place. The post you replied to had where I spoke of my Honda success stories, and I stress once again, nothing of Mazdas.
 
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Re: well despite EVERYTHING! [thegraduate] by savvyboy
Mar 08, 2007 (10:15 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Mar 08, 2007 9:08 pm)

Yes, of course. In the midst of a Mazda 3 forum I took it soooo far out of context. Just out of left field. How could I possibly imply a mazda comparison in the middle of a Mazda 3 forum. Totally unreasonable.
 
And no...the "shh" thing wasn't between you and the other person, because it was a part of a public forum. So it was actually between you, and him, and the hundreds of others that read this forum. Hardly private.
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Re: well despite EVERYTHING! [savvyboy] by thegraduate
Mar 08, 2007 (10:35 pm)
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Replying to: savvyboy (Mar 08, 2007 10:15 pm)

What, because I imply my Honda was reliable I therefore say Mazda is unreliable? That is exactly what you are implying. It sounds incredibly rediculous. As long as you are happy boy...

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