Worst Cars

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#135 of 174 Re: Worst Cars....YUK !!!!!! [xrunner2] by rockylee

Jun 15, 2006 (5:50 pm)

Replying to: xrunner2 (Jun 15, 2006 7:20 am)
A lot better than some stuff out of GM such as Malibu.
 
Not even the Malibu is that ugly xrunner !
 
Rocky

#136 of 174 King Kong by guss

Jun 16, 2006 (5:29 am)

Looks like a Corolla to me, and I like the looks of the Corolla.
 
For $3k more I'll take my chances on the Toyota.

#137 of 174 Re: Worst Cars....YUK !!!!!! [rockylee] by lemko

Jun 16, 2006 (5:50 am)

Replying to: rockylee (Jun 06, 2006 4:24 am)
Good God! A Saturn Aura front end on an old Mercedes 190 with an Echo interior! I guess they'll be selling these things in blister packs as impulse items at Wal-Mart checkouts. Geeze, I don't think even poor people will find these appealing.

#138 of 174 Re: Worst Cars....YUK !!!!!! [lemko] by xrunner2

Jun 16, 2006 (7:06 am)

Replying to: lemko (Jun 16, 2006 5:50 am)
Good God! A Saturn Aura front end on an old Mercedes 190 with an Echo interior! I guess they'll be selling these things in blister packs as impulse items at Wal-Mart checkouts. Geeze, I don't think even poor people will find these appealing.
 
Poor people,as well as people of other income brackets, shop at Wal-Mart because of the value received.
 
Would be interesting if Wal-Mart started selling low priced cars in the future. How would they address the servicing issue. We could hope that with their overall expertise, the servicing arrangement they set up would be cheaper than any current car dealer in US.
 
Geely, on style, does not belong in Worst car category. GM has many offering in last decade that are more appropriate - Aztek, some Saturns, Firebird nostril car, Malibu, Monte Carlo, original Avalanche, Grand Prix bulbous rear, Cavalier/Sunbird, Rondayvoo, etc.
 
What is amazing is that GM supposedly has decades of styling experience(?) and upstart Geely produces a decent styled car in its short existence. It is already "look out" GM from Hyundai. Just wait till the Chinese get revved up. Think that any Chinese company pays their workers to not work and just sit around all day in a jobs bank?

#139 of 174 Decently styled? by lemko

Jun 16, 2006 (8:05 am)

Geeze, it looks like they dissassembled several different cars, threw random pieces on the floor and reassembled them.
 
Value at Wal-Mart? So I can buy some shoddy Chinese-manufactured piece of junk that will be discarded after six months versus what would normally last a lifetime if purchased from elsewhere? Try to find any decent tools. Good God, I swear I've seen better stuff in dollar stores.
 
I'll take the most grotesque, ugly abomination of a vehicle from GM over this Geely piece of garbage.

#140 of 174 i thnk by wonderwall

Jun 16, 2006 (8:53 am)

geely should be sold at wal-mart since everything else there is made in china.

#141 of 174 Re: Decently styled? [lemko] by xrunner2

Jun 16, 2006 (10:31 am)

Replying to: lemko (Jun 16, 2006 8:05 am)
Value at Wal-Mart? So I can buy some shoddy Chinese-manufactured piece of junk that will be discarded after six months versus what would normally last a lifetime if purchased from elsewhere? I'll take the most grotesque, ugly abomination of a vehicle from GM over this Geely piece of garbage.
One can buy many, many items at Wal-Mart that are made in US.
 
The way things going, maybe people wanting to buy a Buick in future will see that it is made in China. IBM Thinkpads now owned by Chinese company and made in China. How soon will Buick name be owned by company of China and proudly display plaque in doorsill showing Made in China.
Might GM sell off Buick brand to Chinese company?
 
On Geely, in coming years workers at any US office will probably announce with pride that they just bought a new Geely. It will be a very "In" vehicle to have. Thing to watch is how fast Geely will improve in style, performance, reliability. People laughed at Hyundai and now they have some things better than GM in value.
 
US citizens should take notice about how many scientists and engineers are graduating from college in China vs the US.
 
For all-time ugly/grotesque, GM has some good contenders including the Aztek and late 50's Olds and Buicks. These have to be on worst styled cars list.

#142 of 174 They may be "ugly..." by lemko

Jun 16, 2006 (11:25 am)

...but I absolutely LOVE those 1958 Buicks and Oldsmobiles! I'd take a 1958 Buick Limited over ANY new car! I'm with you on the Aztek.
 
The day I see Buicks made in China is the day I head straight for the Lexus or Mercedes dealer. I doubt very much that people will be proud to own a Geely. They only bought the vehicle because they couldn't afford anything better. I'd rather own a really nice 15 year-old car than a new Geely.

#143 of 174 Re: They may be "ugly..." [lemko] by xrunner2

Jun 19, 2006 (8:44 am)

Replying to: lemko (Jun 16, 2006 11:25 am)
The day I see Buicks made in China is the day I head straight for the Lexus or Mercedes dealer. I doubt very much that people will be proud to own a Geely. They only bought the vehicle because they couldn't afford anything better.
 
I guess that is today. Looks like you’ll be driving a Lexus or Mercedes soon. Doesn’t GM already make Buicks in China for the Chinese market?
 
I know people at the office and in my neighborhood who always have to have the in-thing. People like Rich, Sue, George, Randy, Megan, etc. In a few years, I can just hear Rich, for example, coming in some day and exuberantly stating, “Hey, I bought a Geely over the weekend. You got to come out to the parking lot and see it at lunch-time.”
 
On 58 Olds, Buicks – Design or style that is good or excellent survives the test of time and many times is copied or emulated. Think of Ipod, 40 years of same basic shape of Porsche 911, almost any Ferrari, etc. That did not happen with 58 Olds, Buick. In fact, didn’t GM realize it’s design snafus in late 50’s by extensively cleaning things up in early 60’s? IMO, 58 Olds, Buick should be on top ten list of “worst” designed cars in last 50 years.

#144 of 174 I think the biggest problem... by andre1969

Jun 19, 2006 (3:28 pm)

with the '58 Olds and Buick is that they were heavy-handed facelifts that were rushed to the market, and reactionary to the sleek designs Chrysler had come out with. The '57 Olds and Buick were actually quite attractive. Their only problem was that compared to the sleek, futuristic-looking Chrysler products of that same year, they looked downright outdated, and not so vastly different from the '56 models.
 
As heavy-handed as it is, I actually think the '58 Buick kinda works, style-wise, although it's nowhere near as beautiful as a '58 DeSoto or Chrysler. I think the '58 Olds is a disaster, though. I actually think that the '58 Olds is about the worst looking car of that year. Oddly though, considering the economy of the time, it was a very good seller. There was a horrible recession in 1958 that hit the middle-priced makes the hardest. But out of all the brands in that category, Buick, Olds, Pontiac, Chrysler, DeSoto, Dodge, Mercury, and Edsel, as a percentage, Olds saw the smallest decline in sales from the previous year. Now, there was no Edsel in '57, but to compare it to the others, I use their original sales forecast of 100,000 units. IIRC, they ended up selling about 63,000.
 
GM's best efforts in 1958, IMO, are the Chevy, Cadillac, and Pontiac.
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