Wouldn't Be Caught Dead Driving One

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#1095 of 1123 4-Door Coupes by hpmctorque

Mar 12, 2011 (2:56 pm)

Those four door coupes from Mercedes, Audi, BMW, Volkswagen, Acura and Honda are among my least favorite vehicles. I think they're overpriced, for what you get, porky, and, to my eyes, ugly.

#1096 of 1123 Re: 4-Door Coupes [hpmctorque] by andre1969

Mar 12, 2011 (3:56 pm)

Replying to: hpmctorque (Mar 12, 2011 2:56 pm)
Are you talking about those raised-up hatchback things that are sort of a reincarnation of the old hunchback '78-79 Cutlass Salon and Century? I agree, those things are ugly, fat, not that roomy, and for the most part I don't see their point. I remember at the DC auto show last year, when we first saw them, the BMW actually wasn't that bad. At least it was kinda roomy, both front and rear, and had some storage space. But the Honda and Acura versions just seemed useless in all respects.
 
Is Volkswagen making one of those things, too? When you said "4-door coupe", I was also thinking of car like the Benz CLS or VW Passat CC. I do kinda like those. They remind me a bit of the old hardtop sedans of a bygone era. Even though they come with a B-pillar these days, overall they're still pretty sleek compared to the regular sedans.

#1097 of 1123 Re: 4-Door Coupes [andre1969] by hpmctorque

Mar 12, 2011 (11:41 pm)

Replying to: andre1969 (Mar 12, 2011 3:56 pm)
Yeah, those are the ones to which I'm referring. Sure, there's a certain similarity with the '78-'79 Cutlass and Century, although I hadn't thought of that until you mentioned it. It's an interesting comparison, but to me the the Cutlass and Century of those years were more logical than these new coupes, because, (1) the pricing premiums over their Malibu and LeMans counterparts were consistent with their pricing differentials were consistent with the brands, and, (2) they didn't sacrifice space efficiency or interior configuration (eg. headroom).
 
Come to think of it, the X-car models reversed the sedan/hatchback order, with the more popular priced Celebrity and Phoenix sedans being fastbacks and the more premium priced Omega and Skylark featuring notchback styling.
 
Although styling is largely a matter of taste, I prefer the looks of the BMW 5-Series, Mercedes E-Class and Passat sedans to their 4-door coupe counteparts.
 
It's late, so maybe I didn't express my points very logically.

#1098 of 1123 Not Smart by hpmctorque

Feb 13, 2013 (7:00 pm)

The brand I'd least like to own is the Smart.

#1099 of 1123 Re: Not Smart [hpmctorque] by michaell

Feb 14, 2013 (7:20 am)

Replying to: hpmctorque (Feb 13, 2013 7:00 pm)
The brand I'd least like to own is the Smart.
 
+1 on that!

#1100 of 1123 Diesels, Hybrids by hpmctorque

Apr 18, 2013 (2:09 am)

Do you think you'll ever own a diesel or hybrid? Yes, probably, maybe, never? Why/why not?
 
I could see myself owning a diesel, but not a hybrid, unless there's a major breakthrough in battery technology. Whatever I buy has to make economic sense, without government incentives, and be fun to drive.

#1101 of 1123 Re: Diesels, Hybrids [hpmctorque] by qbrozen

Apr 18, 2013 (6:00 am)

Replying to: hpmctorque (Apr 18, 2013 2:09 am)
I want a diesel hybrid!
Really really want VW to give us that 3-row version they showed off at the auto show. That would most certainly be my wife's next vehicle if it delivers as promised.

#1102 of 1123 Re: Diesels, Hybrids [hpmctorque] by steve_ HOST

Apr 18, 2013 (6:35 am)

Replying to: hpmctorque (Apr 18, 2013 2:09 am)
We just happen to have a few posts about that very subject on the next block.

#1103 of 1123 Re: Diesels, Hybrids [hpmctorque] by fintail

Apr 18, 2013 (8:08 am)

Replying to: hpmctorque (Apr 18, 2013 2:09 am)
Have a diesel now, it's a great car. 35.3 mpg yesterday on a mixed suburban/highway run, doesn't have 1000 miles on it yet so not even close to being broken in. Not a "fun" car in a sporty way, but it's a nice ride and has plenty of power.
 
Diesel hybrid sounds interesting, but a Prius is still probably too dorky for my delicate ego

#1104 of 1123 If you see me in either... by lemko

Apr 18, 2013 (8:57 am)

...you will really know the SHTF!
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