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#1082 of 1094 Re: Worst looking cars IMHO [andre1969] by uplanderguy May 26, 2008 (11:51 am)
Replying to: andre1969 (May 26, 2008 11:11 am) We have only 800-some miles on it so far (only have had it ten days) but it is EPA-rated at 25 city, 36 highway. All stick-shift LS and 1LT Cobalts built after 3/17/08 are the XFE model where Chevy played around with the fifth-gearing, computer mapping and put easier-rolling tires (read that as cheap Goodyear Integritys!) on it. Apparently even the cheapest Cobalts before 3/17 came with 'touring' tires. Supposedly the 36 highway MPG is highest in its class.   The invoice was $14,909--we started there. There was a total of $3,000 in rebates, my $1,500 in GM Card monies was upped to $2,000 until 6/2, and I got $2,400 for my old Cavalier with 112K miles. I think I did well.   Bill Replies to this message: fintail (May 26, 2008 1:02 pm) andre1969 (May 26, 2008 6:19 pm) uplanderguy (May 27, 2008 5:39 am)
#1083 of 1094 Re: Worst looking cars IMHO [uplanderguy] by fintail May 26, 2008 (1:02 pm)
Replying to: uplanderguy (May 26, 2008 11:51 am) I don't see anything wrong with a Cobalt, inoffensive decent enough car....but those minivans have never won me over. Luckily I don't have a reason to buy a vehicle that size, so I'll never have to go there.
#1084 of 1094 Re: Worst looking cars IMHO [uplanderguy] by andre1969 May 26, 2008 (6:19 pm)
Replying to: uplanderguy (May 26, 2008 11:51 am) So it sounds like this Cobalt ended up selling for about $7500? I'd say that's a helluva deal. Sounds like, for once, it was the dealer that did the squealing, more than the buyer. Replies to this message: uplanderguy (May 27, 2008 5:39 am)
#1085 of 1094 Re: Worst looking cars IMHO [andre1969] by uplanderguy May 27, 2008 (5:39 am)
Replying to: andre1969 (May 26, 2008 6:19 pm) Yep, $14,909, less $3,000, less $2,000, less $2,400 trade-in. Sales tax in OH is the price of the new car less the trade (in this case $12,509; the rebates are considered 'cash down'). My dealer charged a $250 document fee which I think is horse*hit; however, the Chevy dealer three miles down the road owned by another family charges the same thing. So out the door I paid $8,638.50, which was less than my '02 Cavalier with a similar trade-in. I am very happy with the car at that price, especially. The sticker was $15,465.00. Again, it's a 5-speed, and the only options I chose are ABS and the Protection Package (carpeted floor mats and body side moldings). A/C is standard, as is satellite radio now..at least for three months! The dealer had to get the car from a dealer five hours away, too, so I especially can't complain.   Bill
#1086 of 1094 SMART IS A JOKE by sixfive May 28, 2008 (4:42 am)
FOUR TWO - No way I'd ever been seen in one of those. Better gas mileage to be had from many many other cars that are also compact for city driving. What is the catch? Not the mileage, not the price, not value. Looks or cool factor? I say Diamler pulls the plug on the US Smart market unless gas goes to 8 buks.   JETTA - The best chick car ever! Hey I'm a dude   PLYMOUTH HORIZON, DODGE OMNI - no need to expound   K CAR and other 2.2 lITER DERIVATIVES (Lebaron) - Experiences via family ownership were horrible: blown trannies at 20k, burnt turbos at 25k and worst of all - they looked like trash and sounded like an old man wheezing when you pressed the gas. I can't believe they saved the company with this car...but they did.   PRIUS - It's not an anti-green thing, it's that I can't been seen in an automobile that is about being seen being green.   BMW 3 SERIES - Does everyone who needs to make a statment really have to buy the best car in the segment and then muck it up for everyone else. Great car, not the image for me. Never have met a car guy that owns one (sans M3). Maybe I'm more image conscience than the 3 owners with whom I attempt to disassociate with. Interesting.   NEW BEETLE: See Jetta above. Old beetles magically are cooler now that they are no longer made. In 70's - not cool. Replies to this message: snakeweasel (May 28, 2008 4:37 pm)
#1087 of 1094 Re: SMART IS A JOKE (sixfive) by hpmctorque May 28, 2008 (5:43 am)
So, what do you drive, sixfive? Also, which model(s) do you prefer to the 3-Series?
#1088 of 1094 G35 by sixfive May 28, 2008 (7:13 am)
I drive a G35 Sedan, arguably a better driving (not interior lux) car at the time of the e39 platfom, which was aging at the time- at least that's what I rested my decision on 5.5 years ago. As well as the attitude the car evokes in my own world of dimented perception.   Just picked up a 2009 Murano as well - of course not a choice for sports sedan folks, but practical and fun toys galore. It drives ok, but we passed on an FX. At least it's not a woody panel PT cruiser, which i should have on my list!
#1089 of 1094 Re: SMART IS A JOKE [sixfive] by snakeweasel May 28, 2008 (4:37 pm)
Replying to: sixfive (May 28, 2008 4:42 am) FOUR TWO - No way I'd ever been seen in one of those. Better gas mileage to be had from many many other cars that are also compact for city driving.   Sorry other than hybrids no other gas powered car comes close to the Smart in gas mileage. I found the Smart to be a fun car to drive.   PLYMOUTH HORIZON, DODGE OMNI - no need to expound   Had one, it was a good car handled pretty good and was somewhat fun to drive. Someone made a left turn infront of me and ended up getting another this time it was a GLH, that was a blast.
#1090 of 1094 G35 (sixfive) by hpmctorque May 28, 2008 (10:27 pm)
Nice!
#1091 of 1094 GLH by sixfive May 29, 2008 (5:11 am)
The 4-2 has a hard core jittery ride. I guess I'd have to change my expectations about why you own a car - I don't live in the city. Also, the mileage is good but not better than some larger and SAFER cars. Safety in head on collssions and other potential disaster is an issue if you drive in the NE and sitting on the rear axle of a car is not for everyone. Also, the roads are horrible here. If I live in south FLA again, it could make sense.   The GLH was a great car among a bunch of lame compacts, except for the GTI. I used to love the turbo lagged punch the 2.2 could provide, for a while anyway, in that smaller lighter package. My sister had the vanilla omni and I remember not being able to pass a loaded garbage truck. Replies to this message: karsick (May 30, 2008 5:47 pm)

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