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Wouldn't Be Caught Dead Driving One

1094 messages,  Last post on Jul 28, 2008 at 4:35 AM

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Re: "Wouldn't Be Caught Dead Driving One" [hpmctorque] by irismg
Jul 18, 2007 (7:48 pm)
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Replying to: hpmctorque (Dec 14, 2005 4:56 am)

This is an old thread, but I'll put my 2¢ in it. First, may I say that the Biarritz was a beautiful car, but like all Cadillacs they are completely impractical. I've always wanted a Catera, but for the smallest Cadillac to only get 18mpg is out of the question. That car was built in the '90s but the mileage was that of a car in the '70s. It's their impracticality alone that keeps me away from one.
 
Now for a car I wouldn't drive on a dare, I would put the Plymouth Prowler on my list. I thought I'd never seen a car so ugly in modern times – then along comes Scion! The Scion xB (last year's model - it's even uglier now) tops my list right now. I rode in a friend of mine's xB, and while it's ok, as long as you're not in an Oklahoma crosswind, I at least was a passenger and not driving it! I feel like if I want to be in a UPS truck I'll go find a real one! I wouldn't own one if it were free.
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Re: Cars I could never own: [carguy58] by irismg
Jul 18, 2007 (8:08 pm)
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Replying to: carguy58 (Mar 12, 2007 11:02 pm)

03+ Toyota Corolla-The back end is way too tall looking. I prefer the looks of the 98-02 Corolla to the current generation of Corolla.
 
As the proud and grateful owner of a '98 Corolla, I couldn't possibly agree with you more! And if they make generationX a better looking car than what's out there now, I, too, will reconsider Toyota for my next vehicle!
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My New Car to Beat On! by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jul 19, 2007 (5:48 pm)
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Caught sight of the new Lincoln Navigator----oh my, that is regrettable. Very messy grillwork, and I find the chrome spats rather garish to say the least. All flash, no class, IMO. This is one car I'd trade it if I won it in a contest.
 
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Not A Smart Choice by hpmctorque
May 09, 2008 (3:36 am)
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I don't consider the Smart car to be a good econocar choice. Fuel economy is good, but not outstanding, after factoring in the cost of premium gasoline, and it only seats two. In addition, the Smart's performance is very modest. For about the same price, or even a little less, you could buy a Chevy Aveo, Hyundai Accent or Kia Rio, which are roomier and perform much better. For not much more money you could buy a Toyota Yaris, Honda Fit, or Nissan Versa. And, for less than the price of a Smart, you could buy a good, low mileage late model compact, such as a Honda Civic or Ford Focus.
 
I think image is a strong motivating factor for many who choose a Smart, rather than rational factors.
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Re: Not A Smart Choice [hpmctorque] by snakeweasel
May 09, 2008 (3:59 am)
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Replying to: hpmctorque (May 09, 2008 3:36 am)

Well looking at it realistically how often do people commute with more than two people in the car? In your daily commute how much performance will you ever use? A high (or even medium performance) car in rush hour traffic is a joke, the Smart has enough power to work well in typical city driving. Not only that but the Smart gets as good city mileage as most other cars get on the highway, that sounds pretty good to me So me one other non hybrid that beats 30 MPG city.
 
As an only car the Smart may not be the best choice, but as a second commuter car its a very good choice.
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Re: Not A Smart Choice (snakeweasel) by hpmctorque
May 09, 2008 (5:32 am)
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I'd agree with everything you said if only the Smart were less expensive. My point is for about the same price as the Smart, there are better choices.
 
It'll be interesting to see how the Smart retains its value. If its depreciation is similar to the MINI's, then I'll reevaluate my opinion regarding the Smart, because it will mean that the market considers it a good value. If it suffers rapid depreciation, as I suspect, then the smart buyer would be well served to buy a two year old, low mileage Smart for, say, $8,000.
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Shoot... by lemko
May 09, 2008 (7:06 am)
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...if a Smart was priced like the average lawn tractor or a modestly-priced motorcycle, I'd definately consider one. As it is, there are better alternatives.
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Re: Not A Smart Choice (snakeweasel) [hpmctorque] by nwng
May 09, 2008 (7:06 am)
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Replying to: hpmctorque (May 09, 2008 5:32 am)

Has the production quotas been sold out for 2008? With gas prices getting higher everyday, I think more and more people are rethinking their vehicle purchase from the standpoint of "want" to "need".
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Re: Not A Smart Choice (snakeweasel) [hpmctorque] by bumpy
May 09, 2008 (7:19 am)
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Replying to: hpmctorque (May 09, 2008 5:32 am)

It'll be interesting to see how the Smart retains its value
 
That will be interesting to see, as they may not even be done with the current order backlog by January 2010, never mind whoever else signs up in the next 18 months.
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Re: Not A Smart Choice (snakeweasel) [nwng] by bumpy
May 09, 2008 (7:26 am)
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Replying to: nwng (May 09, 2008 7:06 am)

Yep, 2008 was sold out a year ago, and 2009 is in all likelihood also spoken for by now. I signed up for the dealer waitlist and I was something like 79th in line two weeks after they opened.

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