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#5823 of 5901 Re: 2006 Accord 2.4L -How to Replace Engine Air Filter? [butterflyjones]
by MrShift@Edmunds HOST
Oct 13, 2012 (7:48 am)
that's the clear coat, so I hesitate to recommend wet-sanding. Probably a good buffer would do it, if you take your time and don't bear down on it. Once you cut through the clear coat, that's it---no remedy for that but a repaint.
#5824 of 5901 Power Steering Hose Recall
Oct 19, 2012 (8:16 am)
Just curious if any owners of 03-07 generation Accord V6's has had a leak in the PS hoses per the up and coming recall. I received an email from my dealer informing me of the upcoming recall. I checked out the PS hose in question and so far, so good.
#5825 of 5901 Re: Power Steering Hose Recall [bioman]
Oct 19, 2012 (6:10 pm)
2005 LX-V6 at 112K and my P/S hoses are dirty, greasy and swollen in places. No significant leaking but the poor condition of the hoses makes them appear to be needing replacement.
I just got my car back from my dealer today (completely screwed-up A/C repair that I have a new case with Honda about) and they noted the leaky hoses but recommended new Power Steering Pump seals for $480! No mention of the recall from them of course and what do leaky hoses have to do with new seals?
#5826 of 5901 Re: Power Steering Hose Recall [ktnr]
Oct 20, 2012 (10:12 am)
Turns out my Power Steering symtoms (noise when cold) is fully described in Honda Service Bulletin 07-086 which notes that a single poorly designed O-ring is at fault. Repair involves installing new, thicker O-ring at 0.3 hours labor. I can do this simple repair myself in ten minutes for under $2 for the O-ring.
I'm outraged that the Honda dealter wanted to charge me $480! Hugely dishonest. I'll report back on what Honda NA says about the shoddy repair work and attempts to make fraudulent charges.
If you're in downtown Atlanta, watch your dealer service VERY closely or they'll attempt to rob you blind.
#5827 of 5901 Honda offered me NOTHING
Oct 25, 2012 (5:17 am)
Honda got back to me. I had faxed them Denso’s warranty on their compressors (requires system purging and dryer replacement or the warranty is immediately void) along with industry articles describing the importance of thoroughly cleaning A/C systems to avoid contaminating a new compressor. I faxed them a copy of the Honda Service Bulletin showing the easy and very inexpensive alternative to the dealer’s suggested $480 power steering pump rebuild to cure a minor noise issue. I explained how the Service Advisor switched from protesting AGAINST additional work that would be wise (but would have required him to come in on his day off OR split his commission with someone else) to pushing unnecessary and over-priced work the next day (once he was resigned to protecting his commission by coming in on his day off, the Service Advisor wanted to make it damned worth his while). I explained how the dealer tried to charge me 8.976111 shop hours (a plugged number they made up) before they backed off their “mistake” and cut the labor charge by 40%.
Bottom line: Honda said repairing a contaminated A/C system just by replacing one part at a time was “proper”. The attempted over-charges and commission wrangling are solely between me and the dealership. Honda suggested I contact the dealership Service Manager again to see if he can explain what they had previously refused to explain. In a word, Honda offered me NOTHING.
If you’re looking for Honda dealer service in downtown Atlanta, you’d be wise to go far North (Woodstock, Georgia) or far South (Morrow, Georgia) instead. Even then, ask in advance to insure that your Service Advisor will be working the next day too in case your car needs to stay overnight. If anyone quotes you a price over the phone, get their full name to avoid hassles over service prices and commissions. Better yet, find a small, local shop who works off their reputation and repeat customers.
#5828 of 5901 Re: Deal From My Honda Dealer [Honda30]
Oct 25, 2012 (7:40 am)
By golly ... 59.95 is a downright steal for a 15 dollar filter and 3 minutes work. My Honda dealer wants 99.95.. Those service writers are salesman on a commission.
#5829 of 5901 Re: Deal From My Honda Dealer [michael2595]
Oct 26, 2012 (12:32 pm)
I used to think that owners were Honda's customers and dealers were just a necessary evil. I'm thinking now that it's the other way around. Auto dealers and their lobbyists are where the money and the power is. The people who drive the products are just an unpleasant annoyance for the manufacturer; always complaining about things that blow up or catch fire or fail to work safely.
#5830 of 5901 Re: Deal From My Honda Dealer [ktnr]
Oct 26, 2012 (12:44 pm)
I have had nothing but good experiences with my Honda dealers in the Twin Cities.
#5831 of 5901 Re: Deal From My Honda Dealer [mr_gone]
Oct 29, 2012 (12:19 pm)
Before the economic crisis in 2008, it seemed to me that Honda was holding the feet of it's franchised dealers to the fire. Honda wanted to ensure that every customer was treated well by dealers they kept on a short leash. It's a different world today where not only Honda but even Acura is challenged by the Korean competition. Honda seems to have backed off their pro-consumer stance and is now willing to allow it's dealers far more latitude in finding ways to lighten the customer's pockets. A "Honda" sign on the building no longer means that you can reasonably trust the people working there. If your Honda dealership's service department happens to be honest, then I'm happy for you. It's not that way though because Honda insists.
Then again, what about all the premature transmission and A/C compressor failures in the last decade? Honda behaved in a very stubborn and cost-conscious way in handling the design and manufacturing mistakes that cost Honda drivers a LOT of money. I had my doubts then but now my bubble is fully burst - Honda isn't any better than any other large auto-manufacturer. Shame that.
#5832 of 5901 Re: Deal From My Honda Dealer [ktnr]
Nov 01, 2012 (5:49 am)
WHy should Honda dealers be any different than others? The service department is the profit center. Your service writer is basically a salesman. I waited for my warranty to run out and then took my car to a neighborhood repair shop. No issues here. When you put a company or a person on a pedestal they are bound to fall off. Now everyone loves Hundai. How much of the Sonata is made by Honda? Its all global. Buyer beware. Second car is a 96 Subaru. Never had one problem. Never will. My 2007 Honda had brake issues. Took it to dealership after rotors went at 5,000 miles and brakes at 10. They jerked me around telling me I didnt know how to drive and said Honda would not pay. I am 58. Took my car to my repair shop , Had them yank out the whole brake system and put in a new one at a cost of 1,000. I dont have time for dealerships and their games. Will never buy a new car again.