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#4794 of 4951 Replacement Tires by chief_obie Sep 09, 2009 (4:55 am)
2005 Accord EX 4cyl has over 50,000 miles and ready for new tires. I like the way the OEM Michelin Energy MXV4 handle. I've read about everything I can on Tirerack and many posts on here about alternative tires. The story I am getting is the OEMs are noisy and do not perform well on wet pavement. Suggested replacement tires - "corner well" "good traction" "smooth" All important traits of a tire. I like the confident feel on the steering wheel and do not want a "mushy" tire even if it grips the road like glue. My direct question is, which tire handles as well as the Energy MXV4?   Some I am considering are:   Dunlop SP Sport Bridgestone Potenza Yokohama V4S   Secondary question: What's the difference between the Energy MXV4 Plus and Energy MXV4 S8 ? Replies to this message: thegraduate (Sep 09, 2009 8:32 pm) tallman1 (Sep 09, 2009 9:46 pm) thegraduate (Sep 10, 2009 2:00 pm) and 1 more... tankbeans (Sep 10, 2009 7:43 am) plethysmo (Sep 10, 2009 11:55 am) lbirunner (Nov 02, 2009 7:44 am)
#4795 of 4951 Tires by stickguy Sep 09, 2009 (7:37 am)
Well, I have the same car, and just got tires, so I should be qualified!   I hated the OEM michelins. Terrible wet traction for at least 1/2 of their life, and downright scary once I got over about 30K (I replaced at ~40K). I had to creep around off rap=mps they slid so much.   After much review (including a nice comparison test at tirerack), I went with the Yokohama Avids. I actually went with the H4, since I don't exactly overtax the car, and I never did understand why a 4 cyl needed V rated in the first place! But, the V's are pretty much the same, just a little more $.   Anyway, I love them. excellent road holding, great in the wet, and just as quiet as the Michs. Obviously they will be better than shot tires, but fro what i can remember, they are better than when the OEMs were brand new.   Oh, and they cost about 1/4 - 1/2 less than the michelins.   Just wish I kept one though. I have a 2000 TL that uses the same size, and 1 of the Energys has a sidewall bubble and needs to be replaced. Got quoted anywhere from 120-190 for 1 tire. Replies to this message: chief_obie (Sep 09, 2009 7:59 am) elroy5 (Sep 09, 2009 2:50 pm)
#4796 of 4951 Re: Tires [stickguy] by chief_obie Sep 09, 2009 (7:59 am)
Replying to: stickguy (Sep 09, 2009 7:37 am) Thanks for sharing stickguy. The tests and reviews are helpful, but don't always tell the whole story. I was leaning toward Michelin Primacy. A friend has them on his Accord and while they are smooth, they do not seem as responsive as the Energy. I really like the steering response from the Energys, and don't want to compromise from that. Do you feel the same tight steering response as you did with the Energy?   My son has a set of Avids and really likes them, but he's driving a Toyota so the comparison isn't the same. Replies to this message: elroy5 (Sep 09, 2009 2:50 pm)
#4797 of 4951 steering by stickguy Sep 09, 2009 (1:30 pm)
well, one negative to the accord has always been steering that is a bit too light. But, I believe it is better with the avids, but that might just be as a result of having traction again! The Michilins were very slippery, especially toward the end.   anyway, they handle very well.   your best bet is probably one of the tire chains that lets you trade in if you don't like them. I actually did that once, no hassle and no cost.
#4798 of 4951 Re: Tires [chief_obie] by elroy5 Sep 09, 2009 (2:50 pm)
Replying to: chief_obie (Sep 09, 2009 7:59 am) I never had much luck with the Michelins. A road hazard would always do them in way before the tread was worn (bulges in the sidewall, and a sharp rock punctured one of them). At only 3 years old the Michelins looked like they were dry rotting. The Energy Michelins are designed to be lightweight, and low rolling resistance, for high mileage, but imo are not very durable.. I ended up with some Bridgestone Turanza LS (I think they changed the name to Serenity). They ride just as smooth, a little quieter, and have much better wet traction. They are heavier, so I lost 1-2mpg, but I will gladly trade mileage for a tire with more traction, and more durable than the Michelins.
#4799 of 4951 Re: Replacement Tires [chief_obie] by thegraduate Sep 09, 2009 (8:32 pm)
Replying to: chief_obie (Sep 09, 2009 4:55 am) I have Potenzas (G019 Grid) on my '06 EX 4-cyl. Just replaced the Energy tires at 50k as well. They are great tires for grip. They bite well, and hold a certain curve/off-ramp at 60 where the old tires would've been yelling for mercy at 50 when they were new. They handle great in the wet (I've yet to use ABS all summer, where ABS pulsed like crazy towards the end of the life of the OEM Michelins). Road noise is comparable to the Michelins, but steering is more crisp on center with the Potenzas.   For the record, I also have a '96 LX and put the previous-generation of the same tire (Potenza G009) and have nothing but positive things to say about them in that car. I have right at 30k miles on them, and they are wearing slowly, evenly (rotate every 8k miles, every other oil change). Noise is still respectable, and grip is good, if not as good as the new ones (probably due to the 185mm width on the '96 vs. the 205mm on the '06).   Anyway, long-story short - I don't feel you can go wrong with Bridgestone Potenza G019 series tires. I've had good luck with them - twice, and would definitely make the purchase again when these wear out.   Hope this helps.   TheGrad Replies to this message: tallman1 (Sep 09, 2009 9:46 pm) thegraduate (Sep 10, 2009 2:00 pm) thegraduate (Sep 13, 2009 8:55 am) tankbeans (Sep 10, 2009 7:43 am)
#4800 of 4951 Re: Replacement Tires [thegraduate] by tallman1 Sep 09, 2009 (9:46 pm)
Replying to: thegraduate (Sep 09, 2009 8:32 pm) Wow... you had to replace the OEMs already? I remember you and I discussing this when our cars were new. You had the Michelins and I had the Bridgestones as OEM. I think I've only seen one other poster here who also had the Bridgestones.   At any rate, mine have 6/32 left on them at 73k miles. I've been very happy with them. Replies to this message: thegraduate (Sep 10, 2009 2:00 pm) thegraduate (Sep 13, 2009 8:55 am)
#4801 of 4951 Re: Replacement Tires [thegraduate] by tankbeans Sep 10, 2009 (7:43 am)
Replying to: thegraduate (Sep 09, 2009 8:32 pm) I have no idea what my car came with new since I bought used and had Republican Ensigns. Those were terrible tires. In the winter when I went through even an inch of snow my ABS would pulse all the time and would scream if I went into a corner at even a reasonable speed.   I replaced those in February with Bridgestone Potenza G019s and they have been great. I agree that the steering feels more precise and I can take turns a little faster without having to worry about tires screaming and the car breaking loose.   OP you have 2 thumbs up from me for the Potenzas and I'm assuming from the brief review that Grad would agree with me.
#4802 of 4951 Re: Replacement Tires [chief_obie] by plethysmo Sep 10, 2009 (11:55 am)
Replying to: chief_obie (Sep 09, 2009 4:55 am) I replaced the original tires on my 03 V6 coupe with Michelin MXV4 S8 All Season. They are softer, quieter, and reduced mileage by 1 mpg.
#4803 of 4951 Re: Replacement Tires [tallman1] by thegraduate Sep 10, 2009 (2:00 pm)
Replying to: tallman1 (Sep 09, 2009 9:46 pm) Yeah; they weren't down to the "warning bars" yet, but I'd had enough hydroplaning. During one particular rainstorm back in June, I was tracking straight, but the rain was so loud, I didn't realize that traction was so bad I was doing an indicated 110 MPH even though it was actually 40 or so. This was on a beltway interstate (I-459 B'ham, AL) that doesn't typically hold water badly. Couple that with several ABS stops on little more than damp pavement, and I was done. New tires please! The car had right at 50k when I replaced them. They still smell like new tennis shoes.   Well worth the $94.99 a tire I paid for mine. Replies to this message: thegraduate (Sep 13, 2009 8:55 am)

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