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Honda Accord (2003-2007) Maintenance and Repair

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30k Service and Maintenance Minder by lilengineerboy
Jul 25, 2009 (6:21 am)
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2007 Honda Accord EX manual transmission w/28k. I just got my maintenance minder light to come on with B:1,2. In checking my handy-dandy owner's manual, its an oil change, tire rotation, and air filter change, plus some inspections.
 
The dealer wanted to change the transmission fluid, the brake fluid, and a bunch of other stuff to the tune of $450. I can't find anything that says I have to change any of those fluids yet. They also wanted to do some fuel system service - which the manual seems to actually suggest against. What the heck? I mean the Subaru dealer has a suggested maintenance schedule but that's ridiculous.
 
Is there any trick to changing the brake fluid/bleeding the brakes on this particular Accord? Previous wisdom was to start at the brake furthest from the m/c and work your way in pumping the brakes. Does ABS or EBD affect that?
 
I am planning to do this myself using Honda parts for the filters and I've had good luck with Honda fluids (I know they are probably just someone else's stuff relabeled and more $$, but I haven't had an issue with them yet - oil will be 5w20 GTX most likely). Are there any other recommendations? I'm budgeting about 90 minutes to get through this.
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Re: 30k Service and Maintenance Minder [lilengineerboy] by elroy5
Jul 25, 2009 (6:52 am)
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Replying to: lilengineerboy (Jul 25, 2009 6:21 am)

Honda's method is to start at the front left, and work around clockwise. They don't mention any special procedure for ABS. I like to use a vacuum pump, to suck the fluid out. That way I don't need a helper to push the brake pedal, and the master cylinder shaft is not forced into areas where it has never been (when the pedal sinks to the floor). If any rust has developed on the master cylinder shaft, it can damage the seals.
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Re: 30k Service and Maintenance Minder [lilengineerboy] by tallman1
Jul 25, 2009 (8:16 am)
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Replying to: lilengineerboy (Jul 25, 2009 6:21 am)

I just got my maintenance minder light to come on with B:1,2.
 
I have an 06 EX-L I4 manual. My dealer wanted to do a bunch of extra stuff as well at 30k. After doing some research, the transmission and brake fluid changes seemed the only things worthwhile besides the MM suggestions. The air filter and inside cabin filters were easy to do (well, the air filter did involved a bit of wrestling). I had the dealer do the fluid changes.
 
I don't get as down and dirty as Elroy but he has a lot of experience with his own maintenance. FWIW, I remember that my 95 Accord was notorious for taking a long time to bleed the brakes. Mechanics I talked to said that was common for Honda. Don't know if that is still the case.
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Re: 30k Service and Maintenance Minder [tallman1] by lilengineerboy
Jul 25, 2009 (11:03 am)
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Replying to: tallman1 (Jul 25, 2009 8:16 am)

I have an 06 EX-L I4 manual. My dealer wanted to do a bunch of extra stuff as well at 30k. After doing some research, the transmission and brake fluid changes seemed the only things worthwhile besides the MM suggestions
 
Yeah it seems like another light comes on when it wants you to do the transmission, its like a 3 or a 4.
 
I am pretty comfortable with doing the required inspections and fluid changes, so I think I am going to do an HandA order and do it next weekend.
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Re: 30k Service and Maintenance Minder [tallman1] by elroy5
Jul 25, 2009 (11:03 am)
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Replying to: tallman1 (Jul 25, 2009 8:16 am)

I found out when I flushed my brakes that you have to unscrew the bleed screw quite a bit before the fluid flows freely. I spent a lot of time pumping the vacuum pump before realizing this. Live and learn I guess.
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Driver's door actuator by elroy5
Jul 25, 2009 (11:17 am)
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I changed the driver door actuator this morning (it was moving up and down very slowly), and WOW I had no idea how hard it was going to be. There are two cables, two rods, and two wire connectors hooked up to that sucker. It took me a while to get it out, and then off of the door latch, because there is absolutely nothing in the service manual about replacement (only testing). I actually snapped the tip off one of my driver bits trying to get the latch screws out (those suckers are tight). Everything turned out well though, so I saved myself a few bucks.
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Re: 30k Service and Maintenance Minder [lilengineerboy] by lilengineerboy
Jul 26, 2009 (10:39 am)
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Replying to: lilengineerboy (Jul 25, 2009 11:03 am)

Do you know the capacity for the brake system? How much fluid do I need to get?
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Re: 30k Service and Maintenance Minder [lilengineerboy] by bioman
Jul 26, 2009 (11:06 am)
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Replying to: lilengineerboy (Jul 26, 2009 10:39 am)

Just did a complete bleeding of the brake fluid in my 04 Accord. Used a little less than a quart of DOT 3 brake fluid. Start by draining the old fluid out of the reservoir and filling the reservoir with clean fluid. You bleed the calipers in the following sequence- LF, RF, RR, LR. I use a piece of clear plastic tubing with a check valve on the end that will let fluid our of the caliper and prevent the fluid from being drawn back in the tube. Spray the bleed valves with some WD40 before you begin. Use an assistant to set behind the wheel, open the bleed valve about 3/4 to 1 turn and tell the assistant to slowly pump the brake pedal 6-8 times. You should see clean fluid with no air bubbles coming out of the caliper. When all is complete shut the bleed valve and proceed to the next caliper. Make sure to refill the reservoir after every 8 pumps of the brake pedal. Takes less than an hour.
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Re: 30k Service and Maintenance Minder [lilengineerboy] by blufz1
Jul 28, 2009 (3:21 pm)
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Replying to: lilengineerboy (Jul 25, 2009 6:21 am)

I would let the dealer perform the maintenance required by Honda to keep the car in warranty. Forget the extras. I let the dealer do all the required maintainence while it's in warranty. I just do the things I think important after the warranty expires. .02.
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Re: 30k Service and Maintenance Minder [elroy5] by blufz1
Jul 28, 2009 (3:25 pm)
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Replying to: elroy5 (Jul 25, 2009 11:03 am)

Time to change your plugs,Elroy? Mine were tight at 90k. Love to see the #14 car win and the #18 car lose.

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