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Honda Accord (2003-2007) Maintenance and Repair

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Re: 2007 Accord V6 Oil Filter adapter for a larger filter [texasgulfcoast] by elroy5
Jun 12, 2009 (7:31 pm)
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Replying to: texasgulfcoast (Jun 12, 2009 1:18 pm)

Engines these days don't need large filters. The oil needs changing more because it's broken down, or has moisture in it. Not because it's contaminated with particles large enough to be filtered. The filter is sufficient, IMO.
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Re: 2007 Accord V6 Oil Filter adapter for a larger filter [thegraduate] by texasgulfcoast
Jun 12, 2009 (11:52 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jun 12, 2009 3:51 pm)

Lordy, I hope there is never any moisture in my new car's oil that means a blown head gasket. Larger filters keep the oil cleaner longer especially with Synthetic oil. This is like running coffee grinds thru a thimble for 7k miles, some crud will get by. I guess the answer to my question is no. If anyone can find an adapter please reply to my post, Thanks in advance for any help.
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Re: 2007 Accord V6 Oil Filter adapter for a larger filter [texasgulfcoast] by elroy5
Jun 13, 2009 (4:57 am)
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Replying to: texasgulfcoast (Jun 12, 2009 11:52 pm)

The moisture comes from heating and cooling metal (engine block). If you change the oil often enough, there will not be any "crud" in it, But hey, if you want a filter as big as a two liter, go for it. I guess you're smarter than Honda engineers.
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Re: 2007 Accord V6 Oil Filter adapter for a larger filter [texasgulfcoast] by mrbill1957
Jun 13, 2009 (8:25 am)
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Replying to: texasgulfcoast (Jun 12, 2009 11:52 pm)

If you really feel the need for additional oil filtering, you might search for a "bypass oil filter" Here is an example:
 
http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/bf.aspx?CategoryID=79
 
Mrbill
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rotors by stickguy
Jun 13, 2009 (9:08 am)
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The dealer can't say they will machine them until they are inspected. There is a spec (certain thickness) you use. Below it, they can't be machined. And if they re warped at all, replace them.
 
I just had the rears done on my .05 at 43K (inner pad wore out, defective design). But the rotors had plenty of meat, so they got cut.
 
Also, IMO, Honda usues lousy brake pads. If you get a shop to do it, they wil lliekly (or can, for a small extra cost) use much higher quality pads.
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- by dudleyr
Jun 14, 2009 (8:57 am)
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I use Purolator Pur One oil filters. They are premium filters with synthetic media. They are slightly larger than the Honda filters. Still the Honda filters are big enough. There are no coffee ground sized particles in the engine.
 
I use synthetic oil and after 8-9,000 miles when I change the oil it is still a dark honey color. If the oil was full of particles it would be much darker.
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Oil Change When should I do it 3000 miles or 3 months or Mintenance Indicat by 2007accord1
Jun 18, 2009 (7:42 pm)
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I have 2007 Honda Accord. I am hearing lot of discussions lately on when should change the oil on newer models..
 
I do daily total 20 miles on my car.( 2 trips between work and home) My maintenance Oil indicator shows 50% , Miles traveled 2800 miles and almost 4 months since the last oil change..
 
I would like to know when should I change the oil.. Should I go by Maintenance indicator/ No of months/ No of Miles..
 
Please advise
 
Thanks
Kush
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Re: Oil Change When should I do it 3000 miles or 3 months or Mintenance Indicat [2007accord1] by dek97993
Jun 19, 2009 (5:33 am)
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Replying to: 2007accord1 (Jun 18, 2009 7:42 pm)

It depends on a few factors: your overall driving habits and the environmental conditions. If you do a lot of stop and go driving, let your car idle for prolonged periods of time, or drive in extremely dusty or cold conditions, I would go ahead and change the oil every 3000 miles. The longer you let the car idle, especially in very cold climates, the quicker the oil gets diluted by gasoline and byproducts of combustion. As a general rule of thumb, I change my oil before the cold, winter season and then right after it. If you drive non-stop, easy, highway miles to and from work, I would just stick to the regular advised maintenance schedule. If you really want to get to be a student of oil, learn to feel, smell and look at the oil on the dipstick. If it's a new car, it shouldn't get dark immediately after a fresh oil change. Does it smell strongly of gasoline (it shouldn't), and is the viscosity decreased when you rub it between your fingers ( i recommend wearing disposable rubber gloves, but purists will say the most sensitive way is to use your fingers without gloves). Hope this helps.
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Re: Oil Change When should I do it 3000 miles or 3 months or Mintenance Indicat [dek97993] by thegraduate
Jun 19, 2009 (6:38 am)
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Replying to: dek97993 (Jun 19, 2009 5:33 am)

The maintenance minder will account for all the idling (it sounds like the original poster does a good bit of city driving based on the 50% at only 2800 miles, anyway). Use the MM, save your money; Honda engineers know better than we do on when our Accords need O/Cs. I usually go around 7,500 miles before mine hits the 15% mark, but I do more than 50% highway driving.
 
Happy Hondaing,
 
TheGrad
'06 Accord EX 2.4L 5AT
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Re: Oil Change When should I do it 3000 miles or 3 months or Mintenance Indicat [thegraduate] by lilengineerboy
Jun 19, 2009 (8:00 am)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Jun 19, 2009 6:38 am)

Honda engineers know better than we do on when our Accords need O/Cs.
 
Not really. Its driven more by marketing than by anything else. An example of this is BMW...in the 80s, they were notorious for high maintenance costs leading BMW to introduce they free maintenance for 3 years thing...then they decided THEY were paying too much and started eliminating services like oil changes, transmission flushes, and coolant changes. Now if you look at CR, their cooling systems are sub-par.
 
There are a few arguments - the 3000 mile oil change was mandated more by the revenue streams for Jiffy Lube etc than anything else, automotive lubricants have come a long way in 20 years, motors are manufactured with tighter tolerances and the materials used for seals, engines heat up faster - that point to longer change intervals. However, driving demands have increased, speeds are higher, traffic is worse (more idling) and engines run hotter - all imply that the oil should be changed sooner.
 
I have been changing my oil when the light tells me to, but I have a highway drive at moderate speeds with light traffic. I also don't expect to keep the car forever, although the resale value hit recently may change that.

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