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2005 Honda Accord 4cyl AT EXL by langjahr
Jan 05, 2009 (12:54 pm)
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I was wondering if sparks plugs are different. I read here somewhere, but can't find it again that a certain spark plug will give you aprox 5 hp throught all ranges, if this is true i would gladly pay double or triple for this, wouldn't eyeryone? , if it is also safe for the engine that is. Thanks for any responces. Charlie
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Brake Change by f0rl0rn
Jan 05, 2009 (1:02 pm)
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07 EX 4cyl. Manual: 53K mileage.
 
I just started getting my first brake squeal. It is the back right brake (drivers rear). I'll probably change them out soon. I know I should do both rear brakes at the same time. I haven't gotten down and measured the pads all the way around yet but I will.
 
I have heard the rear brakes need changing before the front. Is anyone aware of that trend? How long on average after the rear do the front ones go out? Should I just replace brakes all the way around while I am at it? I may try tackling my first brake job ever this time around. What are the common pitfalls to pay special attention to? Should I go ahead and swap out the Brake fluid while down there?
 
Also, some have told me that turning the rotors every time you swap pads lengthens future pad life and maintains best braking performance. I am told this is because it eliminates friction loss between rotor and pads by removing the grooving from the original brakes.
 
I am sure there are other questions I should be asking but I don;'t know to ask. Any input at all is appreciated.
 
Also, I will be ordering the Maintenance manual soon. Is it still only available through the website at the back of the Honda glove box Owners Manual?
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Re: 2005 Honda Accord 4cyl AT EXL [langjahr] by f0rl0rn
Jan 05, 2009 (1:17 pm)
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Replying to: langjahr (Jan 05, 2009 12:54 pm)

I would stick with the OEM plugs. 1st reason is that horsepower and/or fuel mileage increases has not yet been proven to come from Spark Plugs in a lab setting. 2nd reason is that the Spark Plugs are part of the ignition system. It is possible to see HP gains by upgrading the system. But this is more than just swapping out plugs. Some cars have shown weaker performances by switching to a "higher quality" plug. It has something to do with heat and temperature fluctuations throughout the ignition system and how that relates to the rest of the engine.
 
If you are going to be tuning your car then you would be fine. However, if you are ready to tune things out you should already be familiar with this.
 
I would stick to OEM and save the money and potential damage by using a plug that was not engineered for your engine.
 
Also, if you are looking for 5hp gains you should be driving a different car. Accords are not meant for "performance" like that. You probably would never noticed 5hp, the only advantage would be engine life through ease of moving the vehicle. Once you start passing 25-30hp you should start to feel the difference because of the power to weight ratio. The Accord is not a drivers car. Buy something that is small and light. Then small HP gains would be noticeable.
 
Those are my two-cents. I am sure there are others who can correct anything I have said or provide a different perspective on plugs.
 
Good luck!
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Re: winter tire pressure. [bvdj84] by mrbill1957
Jan 05, 2009 (3:02 pm)
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Replying to: bvdj84 (Jan 05, 2009 8:36 am)

One thing I found out the hard way, those tire pressure gauges can fail. or at least can be way off. I have a gauge in each vehicle, and one in the garage. The last time I checked the pressure, the tires were showing 10 psi low. Wow, that seems alot, but it's 20 deg. outside, and the last time I checked the pressure, it was 70 out. I filled the tires, and took my truck for a ride to get gas. The thing rode like a lumber wagon. I got back home and re checked with another gauge, now the tires are 15 psi high. Needless to say, the one gauge hit the trash can. The rest tested within 2 psi of each other. I just went out and got a new digital gauge, I'm going to bring all of them into work and verify with calibrated equipment.
 
Mrbill
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Re: 2003 LX - Dash brake light on all the time [deliciousbass] by elroy5
Jan 05, 2009 (3:19 pm)
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Replying to: deliciousbass (Jan 05, 2009 5:51 am)

When I unplug the connector to the master cylinder, it goes out. Anyone have a suggestion on how I should proceed?
 
One thing you may want to check. Take the cover off the master cylinder, and check to see if the rubber boot is hanging down. If it is, push it back into the cover. This has been known to cause the Brake light to come on, on older Accords. It may still apply.
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Re: Brake Change [f0rl0rn] by elroy5
Jan 05, 2009 (3:34 pm)
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Replying to: f0rl0rn (Jan 05, 2009 1:02 pm)

I have heard the rear brakes need changing before the front. Is anyone aware of that trend? How long on average after the rear do the front ones go out? Should I just replace brakes all the way around while I am at it? I may try tackling my first brake job ever this time around. What are the common pitfalls to pay special attention to? Should I go ahead and swap out the Brake fluid while down there?
 
Yes, the rear brakes do wear faster than the front (on many 7th gen Accords). My rear brakes were changed at 47k miles, and the front were just changed at 60k miles. When you push the calliper piston back in (rear only) you have to turn it clockwise, while pushing. Then line up the groves in the piston with the tab on the inner pad backing plate (should be square with the calliper). There is a paste that comes with the oem pads, that is to be applied between the pad backing and the shims. This paste is supposed to keep the brakes from squealing. If the new pads don't come with shims, use the old ones. There are different opinions on wether or not you should have the rotors turned when replacing the pads. IMO if the brakes are working fine, and there are no deep grooves (1/8") in the rotor, I would not have them turned. It will only make the rotors thinner, and weaker. You just have to break the new pads in carefully. I have a link explaining this, if you want to read it.
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Re: Brake Change [elroy5] by tankbeans
Jan 05, 2009 (3:52 pm)
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Replying to: elroy5 (Jan 05, 2009 3:34 pm)

For what it's worth, I have had an 03 4-cylinder since 36000 miles and am now just under 59000. I had the front pads replaced at around 42000 a little over a year ago. I don't think the rear drums have been serviced yet and I haven't had any problems. I'm getting an intermittent squeal, but it isn't constant.
 
I'm going to wait until 60k when I take it in for its check-up and have them check it along with my alignment and all that fun stuff. I'm not handy at all. I can change pads and filters that's about it.
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Re: 2005 Honda Accord 4cyl AT EXL [langjahr] by elroy5
Jan 05, 2009 (4:12 pm)
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Replying to: langjahr (Jan 05, 2009 12:54 pm)

I was wondering if sparks plugs are different. I read here somewhere, but can't find it again that a certain spark plug will give you aprox 5 hp throught all ranges, if this is true i would gladly pay double or triple for this, wouldn't eyeryone? , if it is also safe for the engine that is. Thanks for any responces. Charlie
 
All any plug can do, is burn the gas injected into the cylinder. If the plug is not burning all the fuel, you will smell fuel coming out of the exhaust. As long as the oem plugs are in good condition, I don't see any other type of plug adding HP. A lot of people like to buy higher resistance plug wires, and not matching up the rest of the ignition system. The way I hear it, if the spark plug wires are stronger, they will only put more pressure on the coil and other ignition parts. I say keep everything OEM.
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Re: Brake Change [tankbeans] by elroy5
Jan 05, 2009 (4:16 pm)
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Replying to: tankbeans (Jan 05, 2009 3:52 pm)

I don't think the rear drums have been serviced yet and I haven't had any problems.
 
Sorry, but I was talking about rear disk brakes only. Should have made that clear, I guess. My old truck had rear drums, and at 60k miles they still looked brand new.
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Re: Brake Change [elroy5] by tankbeans
Jan 05, 2009 (4:20 pm)
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Replying to: elroy5 (Jan 05, 2009 4:16 pm)

I'm sorry, I'm kind of dumb. I keep forgetting that you have an EX (SE?). Either way I haven't had the drums checked, I've heard that they're a B---- and a half to fix. Pardon my french.

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