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#3322 of 5901 Re: Brakes making rubbing noise when wet [shanna1017]
Jan 09, 2008 (7:59 pm)
1.) After rain, a thin layer of oxidation forms on the rotors, because of the moisture in the air. Braking for the first couple of times after the rain removes the oxidation, but is noisy in the process, making a rumbling/grinding noise. No problem. YOU DO NOT NEED NEW PADS until you hear the high pitched squeal coming from the brakes all the time when they are NOT applied. You'll know it when you hear it. Don't fret about the brakes, you do not need them replaced.
2.) This is normal for most any car. I have a 2006 which takes longer to crank in cold weather. Any battery will have less charge in cold weather (by cold i mean Freezing or colder, typically). If it is WAY off from normal, you might get it looked at for free like Kiawah mentioned, but I ran into this the other day when the low was 17 degrees, and my car is much newer than yours.
3.) This is normal as well, in every Honda we've ever had this has been the case. (2000 Odyssey, 1996 Accord, 2003 Accord, 2005 Accord, 2006 Accord). In fact, all of the symptons have applied to all of these vehicles, except the 1996 which seems immune from the oxidation on the brakes.
To repeat, everything you've mentioned seems well within the range of normal operation. Also, you don't have to let your car warm up - drive moderately (keeping things under 3,000 RPM) until the car gets warm (check your temp gauge). This prevents excessive waste of fuel, and won't hurt anything at all. Just don't go redlining when the engine is cold.
Jan 09, 2008 (8:16 pm)
If that is the original battery, you might want to invest in a new one. You pretty much got the expected life out of it.
Honda puts a real weak battery in the Accord. Mine just turned 2 years old, and in 40 degree weather, it sounds like it is almost dead.
Last oil change, it tested fine, but that was 416CCA (off of a rated 440cca). Most replacement ones are rated at 600-700, which certainly could explain why it is lethargic in cold weather.
THe brakes do sound like oxidation being scraped off (I get a lot of grinding like that too, and my pads checked out at almost new thickness). You didn't mention miles, but most tire places will do a free check, or just get it done with the next tire rotation.
#3324 of 5901 Re: battery [stickguy]
Jan 09, 2008 (8:18 pm)
Have you guys ever listened to the engine starting on the 3.0L Accord vs. the 2.4L? It makes the 2.4L sound asthmatic and lethargic in comparison. The 3.0L cranks with rapid fires, almost machine-gun like. The 2.4L cranks with a slow coughing sound, not nearly as quick as my 2.2L 1996 does.
I love my 2.4L, just thinking about some things that aren't quite pleasant about it (obviously I'm nitpicking to the nth degree here, just thinking out loud).
#3325 of 5901 Re: battery [thegraduate]
Jan 09, 2008 (8:32 pm)
The 3.0L will crank for a long time, if you don't let the fuel pump prime up. If I turn the key all the way from off to start position, without giving the fuel pump relay time to pressure the system, it can crank for a while. Honda dealerships will usually change the pressure regulator when someone brings the car in for this, but it will not completely resolve it. If I take my time turning the key, it will crank right up. It also depends on how long the car has been sitting. If the car has only been sitting for a short time, all the pressure is not lost. The Accord's 3.0L engine must be pretty easy to turn over though, because my battery was almost dead, and it would still start the engine. My old Toyota truck (also a V6) would crank forever before it would start, and actually burned up the starter's brushes after a couple years.
#3326 of 5901 Re: Idle speed vibrations... Just doesn't make sense... [elroy5]
Jan 09, 2008 (8:46 pm)
Have you checked the engine mounts? I think 600rpm is about right for the idle speed in gear.
-- How can I check the engine mounts?! 600rpm maybe right, but I still insist that for a V6 this car vibrates execively at idle speed in gear... As I mentioned before, my '06 Sonata, a 4-banger, is a LOT smoother when idling in gear...
I'm gonna bring it again to the dealership, have the service manager sit in the car but then also COMPARE it to another, comparable Accord. If that's the way the V6 Accord was designed, fine with me. But I want to check it out first.
#3327 of 5901 Re: Idle speed vibrations... Just doesn't make sense... [mamamia2]
Jan 09, 2008 (8:58 pm)
There is a TSB for adjusting the engine mounts. I will try to find it.
#3328 of 5901 Re: Idle speed vibrations... Just doesn't make sense... [elroy5]
Jan 10, 2008 (8:52 am)
Please, I'd appreciate if you check it for me, elroy. As much as I remember that TSB was NOT for my '05 V6 Accord...
#3329 of 5901 accessory plug problem
Jan 10, 2008 (9:25 am)
When I charge my cell phone from the accessory plug the 15A fuse blows. I thought it was the accessory plug which I changed out, but the fuse still continues to blow. The charger plug works on my other auto so I don't think that is the problem. Any suggestions in tracking down the short??? Thanks.
#3330 of 5901 Re: Idle speed vibrations... Just doesn't make sense... [mamamia2]
Jan 10, 2008 (2:41 pm)
The TSB was for the 4 cylinder models (sorry), and I can't find the explanation at this point. I do believe your problem also has something to do with the mounts though. My 03 V6 does not vibrate, in gear or not, so not all V6 Accords do this.
#3331 of 5901 Re: accessory plug problem [twild]
Jan 10, 2008 (3:48 pm)
Is the fuse OK until you plug your cell phone charger into the accessory jack? Do you have another plug that you could try in the jack to see if the results are the same?