Honda Accord (2003-2007) Maintenance and Repair

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#3080 of 5868 2006 Accord - Transmission Fluid Replacement at 30K? by bf109ace

Nov 30, 2007 (5:52 pm)

A while back I posted a question regarding auto transmission fluid change. A few people recommend a change at 30K.
 
But when I talked to a service lady at Honda Dealership, she referred to a schedule and said the 4-cyclinder Accord only requires a replacement of fliud at 60K. What's your experience? FYI, I drove long distance a lot recently (i.e. 3000 miles round trip twice). At Honda, a trans fluid change will cost $90 plus tax. It's not inexpensive.
 
BTW, I was adviced by Honda Service that antifreezer need not to be replace until 120K miles. Is it true?

#3081 of 5868 Re: 2006 Accord - Transmission Fluid Replacement at 30K? [bf109ace] by elroy5

Nov 30, 2007 (6:20 pm)

Replying to: bf109ace (Nov 30, 2007 5:52 pm)
I think you would be ok changing the tranny fluid at 60k miles, but I would have a difficult time waiting for a coolant change until 120k miles. I do my own maintenance, so I can afford to do it ahead of time. The high cost of labor is what makes it so expensive. My local dealership charges $73/hour minimum.

#3082 of 5868 Re: 2006 Accord - Transmission Fluid Replacement at 30K? [elroy5] by blane

Nov 30, 2007 (6:25 pm)

Replying to: elroy5 (Nov 30, 2007 6:20 pm)
elroy5,
 
$73 is a fantastic bargain. Here in the northern suburbs of NY it is $105 per hour.

#3083 of 5868 Re: 2006 Accord - Tire Balancing and Rotation at 30K [bf109ace] by mrbill1957

Nov 30, 2007 (6:28 pm)

Replying to: bf109ace (Nov 30, 2007 5:47 pm)
If you don't notice any vibration/shaking while driving, then I wouldn't have the tires rebalanced.
 
Mrbill

#3084 of 5868 Re: 2006 Accord - Transmission Fluid Replacement at 30K? [bf109ace] by blane

Nov 30, 2007 (6:36 pm)

Replying to: bf109ace (Nov 30, 2007 5:52 pm)
I understand that you are driving a 2006 Accord, but the 2005 Owner's Manual 4-Cylinder Maintenance schedule (before the advent of Maintenance Minder) reads:
 
Replace automatic transmission fluid
Normal Conditions:
Replace at 120,000 miles (192,000 km) or 6 years, then every 90,000 miles (144,000 km) or 5 years.
 
Severe conditions:
Replace at 60,000 miles (96,000 km) or 3 years, then every 30,000 miles (48,000 km) or 2 years.
 
Replace engine coolant
Normal Conditions:
120,000 miles (192,000 km) or 10 years, then every 60,000 miles (96,000 km) or 5 years
 
Severe Conditions:
120,000 miles (192,000 km) or 10 years, then every 60,000 miles (96,000 km) or 5 years
 
Follow the Maintenance Schedule for Severe Conditions if you drive your vehicle
MAINLY under one or more of the following conditions.
 
Driving less than 5 miles (8 km) per trip or, in freezing temperatures, driving less than 10 miles (16 km) per trip.
 
Driving in extremely hot [over 90°F (32°C)] conditions.
 
Used primarily as a delivery vehicle or taxi that is driven mostly in stop-and-go traffic and/or parked with the engine idling.
 
Trailer towing, driving with a roof top carrier, or driving in mountainous conditions.
 
Driving on muddy, dusty, or deiced roads.
 
If you only OCCASIONALLY drive under a ‘‘severe’’ condition, you should follow the Normal Conditions Maintenance Schedule.

#3085 of 5868 Re: 2006 Accord - Transmission Fluid Replacement at 30K? [blane] by bf109ace

Nov 30, 2007 (7:06 pm)

Replying to: blane (Nov 30, 2007 6:36 pm)
Hi guys,
 
Thank you for your quick response. Very informative! I'll double check my owner's manual and pay attention to the Minder System on my car.

#3086 of 5868 Re: 2006 Accord - Transmission Fluid Replacement at 30K? [bf109ace] by chucko3

Dec 01, 2007 (8:02 am)

Replying to: bf109ace (Nov 30, 2007 5:52 pm)
My Honda dealer's service includes transmission fluid drain & fill every 30K miles.
Coolant flush & brake fluid flush at 45K miles.
The transmission drain & fill costs $75 + tax.

#3087 of 5868 Re: 2006 Accord - Transmission Fluid Replacement at 30K? [blane] by altair9

Dec 01, 2007 (8:36 am)

Replying to: blane (Nov 30, 2007 6:25 pm)
Yep NY is high,I am in Manhattan where I think the labor charge is 95.00 per hour. 105 is even higher than the city itself.

#3088 of 5868 Re: 2006 Accord - Transmission Fluid Replacement at 30K? [chucko3] by blane

Dec 01, 2007 (8:40 am)

Replying to: chucko3 (Dec 01, 2007 8:02 am)
"My Honda dealer's service includes..."
 
I'm surprised that your dealer's in-house private high-profit service schedule doesn't specify all services every 15,000 miles. You'll alway notice that they are much more frequent than the manufacturer's recommendations.

#3089 of 5868 TCO and maintenance by elroy5

Dec 01, 2007 (9:35 am)

From reading on these forums it has become apparent that people are not only considering the purchase prices of the cars. They also consider the cost of operating and maintaining them. Consumers are looking at the cost of insuring, fuel economy, resale value, and maintenance cost. Websites calculate the TCO (True Cost to Own) using the average costs associated with each car. The car makers are trying to lower these costs as much as possible. While the cost of insurance, the car's fuel economy, and resale value are hard to control and improve, the maintenance costs are an area where big savings can be accomplished, by simply extending the maintenance intervals. Many companies will advertise this low cost by advertising 100k mile maintenance intervals. While I do think the cars are designed to last longer than ever before, and thus require less maintenance, the intervals have been extended beyond what I think they should be. Things like transmission fluid, coolant, and spark plugs etc, have been extended to over 100k miles. I think spark plugs are not that important, in that leaving the original plugs in for 100k miles will not hurt the engine, but 100k or more miles on the same coolant, or transmission fluid seem like a lot to me. Corrosion, and wear associated with these fluids can adversely affect how long the cooling system and transmission will last.
 
While lowering the ownership costs is nice, and the fact that many owners don't own the cars past 100k miles, I wonder if they are going too far with the extended intervals on some items. For those of us who own cars well past 100k miles, are we going to feel the affects of this.
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