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Re: Valvetrain noise? [bpeters75]
by haefr
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Jan 02, 2006 (12:28 am)
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Replying to: bpeters75 (Jan 01, 2006 8:43 pm)
What viscosity motor oil and what brand oil filter are you using? Have you checked the oil level recently with the motor fully warmed, shut off, and on level ground? I believe Honda recommends only 5W-20 viscosity for your model year. If some idiot put 10W-40, or 20W-50 motor oil in that motor, normal leakdown overnight and cold start would combine to leave the top end oil starved initially due to too viscous oil not readily flowing initially. FRAM oil filters have been implicated by some as prone to causing startup noise, too, due to alleged improper bypass valve operation that's supposed to direct cold, unfiltered oil directly into the engine until oil pressure settles down as the oil heats up (unfiltered oil being better than no oil). I have no personal basis for believing that FRAM and FRAM-made oil filters are the oil filter equivalent of original sin, but most Honda oil filters sold by dealerships in North America are actually made in a Canadian FRAM factory for Honda. (If it's the FRAM-made unit, it'll say "Made in Canada" on the filter.) Given the noise your car's motor makes soon after startup, I would first verify that the hot oil level is within the "Full" and "Add Oil" markings. If that checks out, I'd drain the current motor oil and replace it with 5W-20 or 5W-30 motor oil - any brand of your choice, just make sure it's listed as "SL" or, preferably, "SM" in the API "donut" on the back of the bottle. (Ford Motorcraft and Phillips 66 are synthetic blends at very low prices when purchased at WalMart.) I'd also change the oil filter to a fresh Purolator "PremiumPLUS" 14459 (This is Purolator's equivalent for your model year Honda applications. Don't worry about using a Purolator product - they also supply OEM and aftermarket filters to Chrysler, and some aftermarket Ford Motorcraft brand oil filters sold through Ford and national discount chains.). If starting afresh with the proper viscosity quality motor oil and a quality oil filter doesn't cure the initial cold start noise, I'd then go to a different Honda dealer's service department and/or contact American Honda on their toll-free phone number in the warranty supplement booklet that came packed in your owner's manual portfolio.
As an aside, I don't own a Honda. I own a Hyundai Sonata. Hyundai came out with a technical service bulletin about six months ago implicating unnamed aftermarket oil filters in a knocking noise at idle. Word on the street is that FRAMs were involved, though I have no way of verifying that allegation. Still it's curious. I haven't used FRAMs for over a decade. FRAM was acquired by Honeywell Systems a few years ago and that's about when the rumors started about their declining quality. Yet the fact that Honda trusts FRAM to make their OEM and service filters for the north American market has to count for something, too, I would think. Please keep us posted.
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- #32 of 1936
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Headlights
by marty1968
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Jan 03, 2006 (9:12 am)
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I have started noticing on my 2001 Accord that the plastic headlights are starting to fade/dull at the top of both. The car is always parked outside. I have always hand washed since I bought it new. Does anyone know of way to stop the progression?
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- #33 of 1936
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Re: Transmission troubles [dano37]
by bugs3
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Jan 04, 2006 (1:22 pm)
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Replying to: dano37 (Dec 29, 2005 10:32 am)
I think 98-02 accords had transmission problems. Mine went out at 50k...it used to shift hard from 2-3 gear. Went to the dealer and they diagnosed it ordered a new tranny and replaced it for free. Honda has given some tranny' ext warranty through 100k since they were aware of the problem
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- #34 of 1936
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Re: Valvetrain noise? [bpeters75]
by bigwilliesjeep
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Jan 05, 2006 (4:33 pm)
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Replying to: bpeters75 (Jan 01, 2006 8:43 pm)
Wow, For once i have actually heard people who have had problems with there hondas. I have a 98 accord 2.3L VTEC, with manual trans. Its got 150,000 or so and i have the same problem but it lasts a little longer and really doesnt quite down untill it gets hot. I am a mechanic for GM, and believe that it is exactly what you say, the lifters drain out and need a litte time to refill. Chevy have that same problem on the 3.1 engine especially if they sit for a while. I have adjusted the valvues on mine as well and did a new timing chain due to the high miles on the vehicle and still have that little noise. Very annoying sometimes, but i feel as if it is not a problem for me. The engine runs great and i do have a couple of other problems that baffle me, but as long as its not a loud clanking of knocking i would not worry bout it...
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- #36 of 1936
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Re: Valvetrain noise? [bigwilliesjeep]
by whitecloud1
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Jan 06, 2006 (4:16 am)
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Are you talking about a '98 Accord? I thought they all have belts.
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- #37 of 1936
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Car Vibrations between 40 - 60 mph
by dushyantw
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Jan 06, 2006 (6:29 am)
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Hi. I own a manual 1999 Honda Accord LX with 4 cylinders under the hood. Its done about 102000 on the clock and has been running fine until now. On my recent interstate trip, i noticed that as i accelerated from zero to interstate speeds, the car begins to shake quite prominently between 40 to 60 mph. Surprising the vibration and shaking stops as i go higher. I tried 100 and it seemed fine. I am suspecting a natural frequency issue.
Can some one shed some light on this, please?
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- #38 of 1936
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headlights [marty1968]
by whitecloud1
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Jan 06, 2006 (8:06 am)
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I have plastic covers on a '90 Mazda. "Tar/debris remover" helped remove most of the film buildup on the headlights.
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- #39 of 1936
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Re: Valvetrain noise? [whitecloud1]
by bigwilliesjeep
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Jan 06, 2006 (2:51 pm)
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Replying to: whitecloud1 (Jan 06, 2006 4:16 am)
Sorry for the mix up, Yes it is a timing BELT, It is not a chain force of habit to me they all the do the same thing. One is dry and one is wet......
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- #40 of 1936
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Re: Transmission troubles [bugs3]
by vincejizim
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Jan 07, 2006 (9:06 am)
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Replying to: bugs3 (Jan 04, 2006 1:22 pm)
I own a 2001 honda and my tranny has gone out at 80K. I bought mine used though, with no warranty. Does Honda have any solution for me, or am I just screwed?
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