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#1103 of 2264 99 Accord - dash (rpm, speed, mileage) not working
Dec 02, 2007 (12:03 pm)
I brought my car, 1999 Honda Accord, in to a mechanic to have a power steering fluid leak fixed. They also changed the oil. At the mechanics, the odometer stopped displaying. As well, the speed, rpm etc. (the entire dashboard) is not working at all. At least I should say, the dashboard was displaying when I brought the car in but when I picked it up, the mechanic told me he noticed the kilometres were not showing when they went to check it when changing the oil. He checked some things and doesn't know why. I soon realized it's the whole dashboard display not working.
Please advise what could cause this. Could it have been something the mechanic might have done accidentally? Like loosen a wire or something, a quick fix? Or is it likely unrelated. The stereo was also asking for "code" when I picked the car up so it means the battery or alternator power supply had been disconnected while it was there. I don't have the code but can get it from my Honda dealer. That is less of a concern than the whole dash being out. We've replaced the battery as the car is a '99 and had the original battery but still no fix. This is the first time in more than 8 years I took the car to anywhere besides Honda and am wondering if I made a mistake. We only drove it a short distance since picking it up because you can't tell how fast you're going and it overheated. My husband thinks it needs a new radiator cap, but we'll see. This is the first repair (the power steering leak) the car has needed in 8 years and seems like a whole bunch of things have gone wrong at the same time.
The mechanic says he didn't cause it but has no idea what is wrong with it and I should bring it to Honda. I've called them and made an appointment. I asked on the phone what it might be and he said he'll have to see it but most likely the instrument cluster has gone. Is this an expensive repair? Sounds like it. Is it possible the mechanic loosened a wire or something because it's odd that it happened at the same time the car was in the shop. I've heard from others they may have forgotten to attach a ground wire or they may have crossed wire when they were working on the car accidentally and fried the instrument cluster. We were hoping it was a fuse, but the manual shows the instrument panel and back up lights share the same fuse and the back up lights are still working.
This is a 1999 Accord with under 60,000 kilometres. I don't drive it very much but have never had any problems with it and dread the thought of spending thousands on it. Any help is appreciated. Thank you.
#1104 of 2264 Re: Winshield Wipers [philt1]
Dec 02, 2007 (12:34 pm)
I had a similar problem with my 88 Accord. I would turn on the wipers, and it would take a second or so for them to start. I eventually rotated the switch on/off/on rapidly a dozen times or so. That fixed my problem. The contacts must have been corroded.
#1105 of 2264 Re: 99 Accord - dash (rpm, speed, mileage) not working [sillysimms]
Dec 02, 2007 (3:10 pm)
We now know when we drive the car, it overheats. Does overheating and an instrument panel that is not working point to any specific problem? Thanks
#1106 of 2264 Re: 99 Accord - dash (rpm, speed, mileage) not working [sillysimms]
Dec 02, 2007 (7:03 pm)
Does the temperature gauge tell you it's overheating, or is there another indication?
#1107 of 2264 Re: Check Engine Lght / TCS light [elroy5]
Dec 02, 2007 (10:55 pm)
it's just time for a change is all. All cars need service, BMWs included, but at least luxury lines give you a loaner instead of bus hauling the customers in their stenchy minivans.
#1108 of 2264 Re: Check Engine Lght / TCS light [jaedlee]
Dec 03, 2007 (1:06 pm)
Elroy, My 95 accord has been the most reliable car I have ever had. It now has over 200K miles, and I just replaced 1 caliper, other than that, only oil changes and brakes in the past 5 years. It is now my winter/snow car since I purchased a 2000 BMW 328I. The relationship between the Bimmer and I is love/hate. I have never driven a car that handles so well. it truly is the ultimate driving machine...when it is running good. If you are mechanically inclined, and can do stuff yourself...get one. If not, maintanence cost is 10X that of a Honda. The stealership wanted $1200 for an alternator, $1350 for the "maintenance two", basically plugs, oil change and 3 filters.
#1109 of 2264 Re: 99 Accord - dash (rpm, speed, mileage) not working [elroy5]
Dec 03, 2007 (2:17 pm)
No, the temperature gauge wasn't working at all. Steam came out of the engine and that was the first indication.
Update: My husband called the mechanic this morning to discuss this and he didn't call back so he went directly to the shop. The mechanic said it's as much a mystery to him as us. He thinks it was like that when we brought it in (which it wasn't).
We had it towed to Honda. They've just called. They have said the circuit board on the instrument panel has gone and needs to have the entire instrument panel/instrument gauges replaced. They don't know why it would happen in a car with under 60K but can't say the mechanic did something, they thing it's random. I think it's odd that it happened while it was at the mechanics, but there's nothing I can do about it.
Regarding the overheating, they asked if I took the radiator cap off. My husband did after the engine cooled down to check the fluid levels. They said we should never take it off as it is dangerous. Then we realized they thought were had been driving with it off so we confirmed that we did not drive with the cap off. They said they noticed fluids in the engine but they drove it for a while and it didn't overheat. The fluids likely got there when the car overheated. I told them the displays on the dash weren't working so my husband couldn't tell it was overheating until it was already hot. They wanted to know how he knew it was overheating without the displays on the dash working so my husband said that steam had started coming out of the hood. He stopped the car and after it had cooled down for some time, he took off the radiator cap to check the fluid level. They can't figure out why it was overheating as it didn't happen today but they'll have the car for another 3 days waiting for the instrument panel and will drive it more
The bill so far:
$95 to diagnose the instrument panel problem
$95 to diagnose the overheating problem (even though no solution found, we're still being charge)
$201 for the instrument panel
$144 for the labour
They said if they can find out anything about the overheating they'll call and advise how much that fix will cost.
#1110 of 2264 Re: 99 Accord - dash (rpm, speed, mileage) not working [sillysimms]
Dec 03, 2007 (2:59 pm)
I'm sure the shop will figure out why it was overheating, so it's useless for me to guess at this point. The cluster problem and the overheating do seem unrelated, and I can't think of any common part that would cause both. Good luck
#1111 of 2264 Re: lights going on and off [elroy5]
Dec 03, 2007 (6:27 pm)
thanx Elroy5 - but what/where is the VSS connector? -dayll