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Honda Accord (1994-1997) Maintenance and Repair

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Re: Transmission Problem... [stickshiftsuzy] by stickshiftsuzy
Aug 24, 2008 (9:09 am)
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Replying to: stickshiftsuzy (Aug 20, 2008 10:50 am)

yeah, autozone only tests cars 1996 or newer. im pretty sure its my transmission computer- i found one on ebay and it on its way.
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1996 Honda Accord Speedometer quit working by bsims66173
Aug 30, 2008 (11:29 am)
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I have a 1996 Accord that the speedometer has stopped working. I have changed the speed sensor but that did not help. I have searched the web and found several things referring to checking the voltage to the sensor. All articles refer to a yellow wire being open. On this vehicle there are two wires going to the sensor. From the sensor plug to the sensor there is a yellow and a white. From the sensor plug back to the wiring harness there is an orange with blue stripe and white with blue stripe. The orange wire plugs into the yellow wire. The white has continuity to ground so I assume this is the ground. There is no voltage to the orange wire. All articles say the yellow wire should have battery voltage but there is none to the sensor. There are references that the voltage should come from fuse 1 under the dash, Fuse 1 is good. I can apply battery voltage to the orange wire but sensor still does not work. I am at a loss here, Has anyone else had any similar problems?
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Re: 1996 Honda Accord Speedometer quit working [bsims66173] by omarr
Aug 31, 2008 (8:13 pm)
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Replying to: bsims66173 (Aug 30, 2008 11:29 am)

Do you have cruise control? If it works, there is not a problem with the VSS.
What does the speedometer read/do when the car is moving?
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Re: Console Transmission Light-Out [thegraduate] by 9rsfan
Sep 01, 2008 (1:28 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Aug 09, 2006 11:10 pm)

It's not too difficult. Start by cleaning all the junk out of your center console so you can get to the two phillips screws on the bottom (you'll need to pry up the plastic piece covering the screws). Next remove your drink holder (it'll pull right out) and remove the screw under it. Now, you should be able to lift the console over the parking brake and set it aside. You should be able to locate 2 screws on each side of the gearshft (remove them). Pull the ashtray out and there should be one more screw under it. The whole plastic bezel around the gear shift and radio unit should loosen now ( it's just held in with clips). Disconnect the lighter connection and the defrost and clock connection from the back of the plastic trim and lift and remove it. You should see screws on each side of the front of the gearshift. remove those. In order to slip the unit over the gearshift, remove the two phillips screws hlolding the shifter knob on (one on each side). Slip the gearshift knob off and slip the gearshift plastic bezel up and over the gearstick. The lamp for the unit is on the left side. Check to see if it just fell out, in which case you can push it back through the hole and twist it to lock, or replace the bulb by just reversing the previous mentioned fix.
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Re: 1996 Honda Accord Speedometer quit working [omarr] by bsims66173
Sep 01, 2008 (5:19 pm)
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Replying to: omarr (Aug 31, 2008 8:13 pm)

Cruise does not work. The speedometer does not even move when driving. The sppedometer was replaced once before. If the speedometer goes out, would that keep the cruise from working? I have no idea. Where does the vss get it voltage from? This vehicle does not have the vss that is driven by the small shaft. This sensor is located on the front side of the transmission and only has two wires going to it. Anyone have any ideas?
 
Barry
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Re: 1996 Honda Accord Speedometer quit working [bsims66173] by sam421
Sep 02, 2008 (6:08 am)
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Replying to: bsims66173 (Sep 01, 2008 5:19 pm)

I have the same issue except my cruise control works. The speedometer stays 20 mph. It does not affect anything so I just left it alone!
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Re: 1996 Honda Accord Speedometer quit working [bsims66173] by omarr
Sep 02, 2008 (7:30 am)
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Replying to: bsims66173 (Sep 01, 2008 5:19 pm)

Sam421 has a problem with a bad speedometer head .
 
The signal for the speedometer and cruise control coms from the VSS.
Your car is OBD2 CODE level "96 and up" I would thike if the VSS was bad you would have a check engine light on. (if needed the obd2 code plug is behind the ash tray)
 
Take a look at this site, It is not you year but it may give you ideas.
http://techauto.awardspace.com/vss.html#Solutions
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Re: 1996 Honda Accord Speedometer quit working [omarr] by bsims66173
Sep 02, 2008 (2:25 pm)
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Replying to: omarr (Sep 02, 2008 7:30 am)

Yes it does have the P0501 code which says it is the VSS. But I have swapped VSS with an old one and it was the same results. using an ohm meter and checking for voltage by pass the vss over a piece of metal it will produce a voltage. If I check it in the car with the wheel jacked off the ground, I get voltage but still nothing on the speedometer. It stays at zero all the time. I have ordered a new vss, but do not want to install it because then it can't be returned if mine are not bad. Could this be a computer (ECM) problem?
 
Barry
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Re: 1996 Honda Accord Speedometer quit working [sam421] by thegraduate
Sep 02, 2008 (3:14 pm)
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Replying to: sam421 (Sep 02, 2008 6:08 am)

If it helps (in case you didn't know), I can give you approx speeds in 4th gear that match certain RPM, if you have a non-Vtec 2.2L Auto (like mine).
 
1200 RPM per 30 MPH is about right.
 
1800RPM - 45mph
 
2400RPM - 60 MPH
 
2800 RPM - 70 MPH
 
etc...
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Re: 1996 Honda Accord Speedometer quit working [bsims66173] by bsims66173
Sep 02, 2008 (4:57 pm)
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Replying to: bsims66173 (Sep 02, 2008 2:25 pm)

OK, Have an update. Drove car this evening just to make sure cruise did not work. When I started down the driveway, speedo was working. Drove the car about 20 miles and all was fine and cruise worked. Got back home, turned the car off. A couple of hours later decided to drive it again, this time speedo did not work. Started up the road and speedo started jumping from 0 to driving speed several times and finally stopped all together. When it was would drop to zero, cruise would cut off somtimes and sometimes it would remain engaged. After I got home, while backing car up to park, speedo would go up to about 20 mph while in reverse and sitting still. If I go to drive, speedo goes to 0. Back in reverse, up to 20. If I put in reverse, back to 20, press the cruise button(On/Off), speedo goes to 0. Not sure what is going on now? Any ideas from the pros?
 
Barry

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