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Honda Accord (1990-1993) Maintenance and Repair

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Re: Instrument panel cluster light dimming? [user777] by picard12
Dec 27, 2005 (3:11 pm)
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Replying to: user777 (Dec 27, 2005 6:20 am)

ok, thanks man. what happens if the alternator is not working properly? Should it be replaced or fix?
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Re: Instrument panel cluster light dimming? [picard12] by user777
Dec 28, 2005 (4:02 am)
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Replying to: picard12 (Dec 27, 2005 3:11 pm)

i'm not sure it can be "fixed". maybe but i doubt it. you can check on-line for the cost of the alternators. the parts store may have a replacement / aftermarket (probably remanufactured) for your vehicle. i think there is typically an extra charge at purchase (like for a battery) that is refunded to you when you bring back in your old one (so someone else can refurbish it).
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1990 ACCORD WINDOW by tjb189
Dec 28, 2005 (10:56 am)
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My 1990 honda accord's driver side window wont go up. passenger side is ok. this happened before but only for a few minutes. right now it is all they way down, and wont go up. Anyone know if its possible for me to fix this, and how? or is this something that i will havew to bring it to a shop for. right now i am just hitting the thing hoping that it will fix itself, but no progress so far. any tips will help thanks.
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Re: 1990 ACCORD WINDOW [tjb189] by picard12
Dec 28, 2005 (8:31 pm)
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Replying to: tjb189 (Dec 28, 2005 10:56 am)

the problem of your window is due to motor. You have to replace the motor. It burned out or wear out. It happened to my honda too. The driver side window is used most often in the car unless the driver transport passengers frequently. You can buy cheap motor from scrap yard for 50bucks and installation fee from a reputable mechanic for 100 bucks. If you try to get it replace at dealer, it will cost you 400bucks.
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Re: 1990 ACCORD WINDOW [tjb189] by user777
Dec 29, 2005 (5:18 am)
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Replying to: tjb189 (Dec 28, 2005 10:56 am)

it could be other things. or there is the possibility of window jamming/binding on the rubber seal that goes around the door window frame. see any evidence of the rubber being pulled down into the door?
 
with it dark and your lights on, when you activate the window switch, do you see the lights dimming? a slight dimming of the lights would suggest the motor is getting power when the switch is activated but it isn't moving the window.
 
if you don't see dimming, then it's possible the switch has gone bad.
 
to completely diagnose it, i'd probably take it to an independant shop specializing in hondas.
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blinking "S" problem by femi
Dec 29, 2005 (9:56 pm)
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Hello
   I have a 1990 accord exr and have noticed that if i start the car and take the gear to drive the "S" light keeps on blinking and take off from rest its slow. Upon advice from someone i checked the TCU, the code is 8. i think this is a solenoid problem. Where is the Solenoid and what is the solution?
thanks
femi
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Re: blinking "S" problem [femi] by user777
Dec 30, 2005 (5:16 am)
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Replying to: femi (Dec 29, 2005 9:56 pm)

follow the links to on-line parts and specify the year and model of your accord. i like looking at the exploded part views of the various systems.
http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com
 
i looked at everything AT related but couldn't find an image with a "solenoid". maybe it is a part labeled "valve" that has an electrical pigtail.
 
it is something with a plate, and some cylinder looking things attached to it.
 
go to
http://www.ebay.com
and type in:
         honda accord shift solenoid
there is one on there - this would give you an idea what it looks like.
 
this site has information on diagnostic codes for the TCM
http://home.earthlink.net/~michaelpkeefe/HowTo_Codes.htm
 
"8" seems to imply trouble with the Shift Control Solenoid Valve B...
 
googling indicated "B" was the lower of the two. not very helpful huh? googling also turned up a procedure where one person recommended using wd40 to clean the screens of the solenoid. i misplaced that link. sorry.
 
perhaps a local library for a Helms, Haynes, Chilton service manual for your model year? otherwise an independant specializing in honda repairs.
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Re: 1990 ACCORD WINDOW [user777] by tjb189
Dec 31, 2005 (9:45 am)
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Replying to: user777 (Dec 29, 2005 5:18 am)

thanks for you input guys. it stayed down for a few days, then i finally took off the inside door panel. after playing around with the wires for a few minutes i was lucky and got it to go up by using the switch. id say the motor is definetly going, for now the window is staying up, dirving around in below frezzing temps with the window down isnt something i want to experience much more of.lol. thanks again guys.
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Re: Instrument panel cluster light dimming? [user777] by haefr
Dec 31, 2005 (2:19 pm)
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Replying to: user777 (Dec 28, 2005 4:02 am)

"i'm not sure it can be "fixed". maybe but i doubt it."
 
Of course alternators can be fixed. The sealed, but replaceable bearings aren't usually the problem, though. The usual problem is just worn brushes and/or one or more faulty diodes making up the full-wave rectifier bridge that converts generated AC current to DC current that the car can use. A rebuilt alternator from an autoparts store is likely to be just as reliable as a very pricey brand-new unit from a take-yer-money-ship's parts department - and may not only even be cheaper than having your old alternator fixed through a mechanic, but carries the peace of mind of a warranty and having had all its electrical subsystems inspected and replaced if necessary. (Most if not all alternators over the last twenty years have the voltage regulator built-in.)
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Re: Instrument panel cluster light dimming? [haefr] by user777
Jan 01, 2006 (5:40 am)
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Replying to: haefr (Dec 31, 2005 2:19 pm)

well - yes... i meant that depending on who the alternator is brought to, a tear-down may be possible, but economically, is this practical? who does this kind of work today? i think most shops just swap the unit out. the voltage rectification ckt, if simple - how much are a few zener diodes anyway? on the order of dollars at most but they have to have the right characteristics, and you must be able to locate them. in the long run, is it brushes, is it bearings, etc?
 
for me, a rebuilt from an autoparts store is the way to go specially if the car is no longer under warranty and it's your dime right? under warranty? new OEM parts please.
 
two true stories about refirbished parts:
1). i failed a CV joint in my old 5spd/MT accord because i didn't attend to a leaky / torn boot (since then i've learned my lesson). i was told it was cheaper for the half-shaft (?) and CV joint to be replaced... aftermarket / refurb parts, and service done at a shop i trust very much. three days later, my wife out on her own, the shaft failed (?) in the middle of an intersection. the service manager said in 26 yrs in the biz, he's never seen that happen.
 
2). more to the point, my toyota corolla's alternator dies on my wife. she has it replaced with a remanufactured unit. one week later the replacement dies.
 
things happen with remanufactured parts, just as they can with new parts... i have a tendency to place more trust in new parts where i think the serviceability of the old part may be complicated or error prone.

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