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Honda Accord, Electrical, Engine, Coupe, Sedan
#1251 of 2107 Re: Honda Accord 1993 won't start [aspring]
Jul 08, 2008 (6:36 pm)
Did you have autozone load test your old alternator and battery before buying a new battery? Most autochains will do that for free.
Since your car starts when jumped, that usually means your battery is discharged. 'WHY' it is discharged, is the real question. If it was discharged because the battery had a bad cell, then replacing the battery would fix the problem. However, if the reason the battery had low voltage was because the alternator is bad and isn't charging the battery back up, then you replaced the wrong part. You might also have corrosion on your battery terminals or they are loose, but I'm assuming you would have fixed any corrosion when putting a new battery in.
I'd take it back to AutoZone, and have them do a load test on your car. They'll roll out a tester, and hook it up to your battery and alternator. They can then put a resistive load on it, and check that your alternator is putting out the right voltage and maximum current, and they will also check that your battery can hold the voltage.
#1252 of 2107 Re: Honda Accord 1993 won't start [aspring]
Jul 08, 2008 (6:43 pm)
You should have had Autozone test the old battery first. Your car's electrical system could be draining the battery, or you could have a main relay problem. Read this link, and try to diagnose the cause.
The important thing is to find the cause, and test the suspected parts. Getting into a guessing game, can become very expensive. Good luck, in your quest for truth.
#1253 of 2107 Re: Honda Accord 1993 won't start [aspring]
Jul 09, 2008 (1:53 pm)
In addition to the previous advise, check your battery cables.
A faulty battery cable will often (typically in my experience) exhibit the same symptoms as a weak battery during the start cycle, sometimes even requiring a jump start, but won't necessarily have an obvious noticeable effect on the car's charging / electrical system once it is running. If your warning light is not illuminating when the car is running and you have a good battery when attempting to start, this should be at the top of the list of things to check.
Checking for voltage drop through the cables is simple if you have a mutimeter or perhaps Autozone will do this when they check the alternator (or maybe not ,I don't know).
For a quick check, see if a cable gets warm or hot to the touch the next time you have trouble starting it
#1254 of 2107 Re: Honda Accord 1993 won't start [kiawah]
Jul 10, 2008 (2:11 pm)
Thanks for the advice.
I went back to Autozone. They tested the new battery and alternator. Both are fine. They did not not know what still cause this, as the problem still exist. The battery location seems fine along with the connections (nothing loose).
So the problem is not from the alternator, could be the Starter?
#1255 of 2107 Re: Honda Accord 1993 won't start [elroy5]
Jul 10, 2008 (2:16 pm)
Of course, I tested the old battery before replacing it. They say it is bad. But having a new battery did not fix the problem.
I went back to Autozone. They tested the new battery and alternator. Both are fine. They did not know what still cause this, as the problem still exist. The battery location seems fine along with the connections (nothing loose).
So the problem is not from the alternator, could be the Starter? and what do you mean by main relay?
#1256 of 2107 Re: Honda Accord 1993 won't start [aspring]
Jul 10, 2008 (2:36 pm)
Unlikely the starter, remotely possible, but I doubt it.
The only thing you are doing when 'jumping' the vehicle, is connecting up a known battery of working voltage to your battery. If the starter had a problem, which battery is connected doesn't matter.
Since you know you have a good battery and alternator, the next thing to eliminate is whether something is draining down your battery. If you have a charged good battery, and lights are left on (or something is draining down the battery), then you will end up with a 'discharged' good battery. When you try to start, there isn't enough voltage and you get the clicking. You come along and jump it, give it the right voltage, and the car starts up.
The way to figure this out, is to first confirm first that something is draining down the battery. With a digital voltmeter, measure and record the voltage on the battery after you stop the car. (Should be in the 13.2-14.2 volt range) (Obviously check to make sure NOTHING is on ...... inside lights, outside lights, things plugged into the power outlets, etc). Measure the voltage every hour for a number of hours.
If you are finding the voltage dropping, then either the battery is bad (which you verified that it wasn't), or something is drawing current. If you disconnect the positive lead and put a test light in series, if the light is on then something is drawing current.
Depending now on your diagnostic skills (and if you have an electrical schematic for your vehicle), you can start pulling fuses to see if you can get the light to go out. If the light goes out with a fuse pull, then you know that something on that circuit is drawing power.
I have seen vehicles with a light on in the trunk (bad switch causing light on), and a bad switch on power seat (leaving motor trying to adjust), bad relay causing radiator fan to stay on, etc. Just last month my daughter left the inside lights turned on during the day (couldn't see that it was lit).
#1257 of 2107 Re: Honda Accord 1993 won't start [aspring]
Jul 10, 2008 (2:40 pm)
Sounds like you (or someone) needs to do some investigation into this matter. Here's a troubleshooting link, if you want to check it out. Good luck.
#1258 of 2107 Re: Honda Accord 1993 won't start [kiawah]
Jul 11, 2008 (4:57 pm)
Your logic make sense.
I opened the hood today and spent sometime looking into the connections. I saw the wire that connects the starter to the battery really loose. So I cliped it firmly. I will see if this will fix the problem...if not, I will try other possibilities.
#1259 of 2107 Re: Honda Accord 1993 won't start [aspring]
Jul 11, 2008 (7:10 pm)
That will do it. That has to be a really tight connection.
How could that be loose, if you had the battery checked at autoparts store? They would have tightened it.....
#1260 of 2107 Honda 1993, performance problem
Jul 12, 2008 (9:46 am)
I need some help with a problem I have with my 1993 Honda Accord, 142,000 miles. Over the past several months, my car has been
jumping/hesitating/stuttering. Initially, it happened so rarely I thought I had gone over something on the road. It happened more frequently, I started to pay attention. It felt as though I had driven over speed bumps. The car would lose power, stutter/jump several times and then everything would go back to normal. These events were sporadic. Never happened on acceleration or deceleration, but occurred when cruising (40-50 mph).
I took the car to the mechanics who have worked with my car for years. They all said, “sounds like spark plug problem”. They found the engine gasket needed replacing, oil in the spark plug wells- I guess as a result of the gasket problem- and wires to the distributor old and cracked. I paid the $$$, drove the car for a couple of days and the problem was not fixed. Back to the mechanic. Faulty distributor wires… which they replaced. Problem still not fixed. Right now this occurs on a daily basis. The car will develop a throaty growl, hesitate a little, then back to normal.
I have been thinking back as to when I started to notice this, as my old Honda is a great driving car. They had replaced all my belts some months ago and I think it was after this that I began to notice this problem.
I would appreciate any suggestions or advice anyone has.