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Honda Accord (1990-1993) Maintenance and Repair

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Re: crankshaft pulley [Fukuyama] by tom1sharon2
Jun 17, 2008 (1:02 pm)
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Replying to: Fukuyama (Jun 15, 2008 4:39 pm)

IF I read your post correctly, you have a problem with that loose crankshaft pulley. My 93 has a (one piece?) dual row belt pulley, so I'm not sure what you mean when you say the the large and small sections are rotating independently of each other.
 
In any case, you should NOT be able to rotate the crankshaft pulley without turning the crankshaft also. If you are able to do so, the pulley bolt has probably loosened and the square keeper pin (key) has either slipped out of place or broken.
 
Be aware that the same bolt and square pin that keeps the crankshaft pulley from spinning also holds the timing belt pulley in place. If that moves, you could end up with some serious valve train damage.
 
Again, IF I read your statements correctly, you need to fix that loose pulley before you go any farther with your other problems.
 
Good luck.
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91' engine swap vs gasket job? by keith04102
Jun 18, 2008 (3:19 am)
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Hello All,
I have a 1991 Accord Wagon with 200k miles. The car is not very attractive but is in pretty decent shape with the exception of an oil leak. In the morning there are two small puddles(2inX2in) under the front end kinda by each tire. When I start the car after sitting it smokes for a few minutes then seems to be fine, the smoke smells oil-ish.
I want to keep the car on the road.. it still gets awesome gas mileage and its perfect to haul my Kayaks around on.
I am wondering about swapping out the engine or getting the gaskets done.. I am also wondering what engines/years are compatible with this car..Its a 4cyl/5speed.. NOT a VTECK.
Any advise,suggestions, or info would be greatly appreciated. You can probably tell that Im not very familiar with mechanics and would like to have an idea before I go to get an estimate.
Thanks!!
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Re: 91' engine swap vs gasket job? [keith04102] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jun 18, 2008 (5:58 pm)
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Replying to: keith04102 (Jun 18, 2008 3:19 am)

The only repair that makes sense given the car and condition would be to fix the oil leaks. If they are leaking onto the exhaust pipes this is probably a good sign, in that the oil leak is up top, not a crankshaft seal. If you mean that the oil smoke is coming out the tail pipe, not smoking off the exhaust header, that's not so good, but is probably just normal engine wear at this high mileage.
 
Those leaks sound like they are getting serious however--that's a big drip.
 
If you have a massive crankshaft leak in front (behind the front pulley), that's fixable but if you have a huge rear main seal leak, that could be very expensive, and on an old engine like yours not a good sign of internal condition.
 
So the advice is---locate the leaks precisely, on a lift, steaming the engine---WHATEVER, then make a decision based on this hard data. How much oil are you burning? That would also be a factor in what to do.
 
I don't think it ever makes sense to do an engine swap in a beat up old car. A used engine from a wrecker makes more sense, or just go buy another old Honda.
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Re: crankshaft pulley [tom1sharon2] by Fukuyama
Jun 18, 2008 (8:04 pm)
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Replying to: tom1sharon2 (Jun 17, 2008 1:02 pm)

yep, somehow the big pulley came off...So I replaced it...alterantor working fine!!! and AC too.
 
thank you all!
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What engine? by keith04102
Jun 20, 2008 (5:01 pm)
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How do I figure out what engine is actually in my car? F20a? F22b? F22A6? F22a4? its a 1991 Accord non vtec 4cyl original factory engine..is it written on the engine somewhere? Im confused
Thanks!
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Re: What engine? [keith04102] by elroy5
Jun 20, 2008 (5:29 pm)
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Replying to: keith04102 (Jun 20, 2008 5:01 pm)

No 91 Accord had Vtec. Those engines were not available until 94. Which engine your 91 has, depends on which model you have.
1991 Accord DX/LX: 2.2L(2156cc) F22A1, MPFI, SOHC 16-valve (single exhaust manifold)
1991 Accord EX: 2.2L(2156cc), F22A4, MPFI, SOHC 16-valve (dual exhaust manifold)
1991 Accord SE: 2.2L(2156cc), F22A6, MPFI, SOHC 16-valve (dual intake manifold)
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Re: What engine? [elroy5] by keith04102
Jun 21, 2008 (1:14 am)
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Replying to: elroy5 (Jun 20, 2008 5:29 pm)

Thanks Elroy.. thats very helpful.. im a F22a4!
There are a couple on Tigger.. Assuming that this would be a simple bolt in replacement (should I choose to do it), in general terms, about how much would it cost to have the labor done at a local shop (not a honda dealer)? Anybody have a rough idea?
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1990 honda accord timing belt by lil_llama89
Jun 22, 2008 (5:33 am)
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hi my timing belt just went out on my 1990 honda accord and was left stranded on the highway, the engine was smoking when i stopped it, is there anyway i can know if the engine was a non-interference engine or an interference engine? ive been looking around on the web and got both answers, some say that hondas never made non-interference engines and then i got some that said almost all honda's are non-interference engines which is the reason they run so long, so im confused as to if i just need to go get a new car completely or if i can just have the car towed and have the timing belt fixed
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Re: 1990 honda accord timing belt [lil_llama89] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jun 22, 2008 (7:37 am)
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Replying to: lil_llama89 (Jun 22, 2008 5:33 am)

How do you know the timing belt broke? A smoking engine would not be a symptom of that.
 
At any rate, yes it's an interference engine, at least by my charts.
 
Even if it is interference fit, that doesn't mean you need a whole new engine.
 
You need to calm down and get some good advice on a)what exactly happened and b) what your alternatives are. You might have overheated and not broken the belt, or if you broke it, maybe you only bent a few valves and you can get by with a rebuilt cylinder head.
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Re: 1990 honda accord timing belt [lil_llama89] by corkscrew
Jun 22, 2008 (8:00 am)
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Replying to: lil_llama89 (Jun 22, 2008 5:33 am)

What color was the smoke?

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