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The Growing Divergence Between Horsepower and Speed Limits - READ ONLY

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#1565 of 1574 Re: HP out of hand [scape2] by ruking1

Jul 10, 2006 (8:09 am)

Replying to: scape2 (Jul 09, 2006 7:24 pm)
The fact of the matter one of the drivers for this behavior is the brainwashing that has occurred the 0-60 mph metric.
 
Hard to get back to what you are saying of people are not actually "BUYING IT".

#1567 of 1574 Re: let the market decide [elias] by albert6

Jul 13, 2006 (4:39 pm)

Replying to: elias (Jul 10, 2006 7:54 am)
You discount the influence of advertising. The most effective advertising creates demand. Best examples: Coke and Pepsi. They are carbonated sugar water with carmel coloring and other additives. Did anyone -demand- those characteristics before they existed?
  
The automakers are looking to create demand for the autos that have the highest profit margins.
  
Can advertising drive people to buy? Thankfully, not yet. But they do seem to spend money on it and would not do so if it did not work at all.

#1568 of 1574 I LOVE THE LOOKS AND STATE OF CHRYSLER 300C BUT by bremertong

Jul 16, 2006 (9:33 pm)

When I was looking for a second car to use with my Cadillac Deville I considered a Chrysler 300C, nice looks and great power stats. I ended up buying a Lincoln Town Car with a much lower power rating. The Lincoln having about 100 HP less than the
300C has plenty of power to spare and in my opinion looks as nice as the 300C. The Lincoln also has close to 40 horsepower less than the Deville but once again the Lincoln
has more than adequate power for doing things like entering freeways and two lane road passing. Not to mention that I paid between 12 and 15 thousand dollars less for the Lincoln of similar age, miles and trim level. My point is that the current competition for power stats is way over done and with the current fuel prices it may turn out that smaller engines will become even more popular. Needless to say that neither the Deville or Towncar have small engines but they are nowhere near as large or powerful as the 300C or SRT.

#1569 of 1574 Veyron by albert6

Jul 17, 2006 (6:32 pm)

Just an example of where things could go... 1001HP, and a top speed of 250mph+. It seems to drain the fuel tank in about 13 minutes at speed. I need to look it up again, but it rejects in the neighborhood of 2-10kWatts in heat via the radiator.
 
0-60 2.5 seconds, calculated. It's 4 wheel drive.
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugatti_Veyron_16.4

#1570 of 1574 Pointless by kdshapiro

Jul 24, 2006 (5:29 pm)

It's about as pointless as an SRT10. The SRT10 is even more pointless than the Veyron.

#1571 of 1574 more power Scotty / the treehuggers canna take much more sir! by elias

Jul 26, 2006 (12:45 pm)

the SRT10 may be pointless but it is also stupendous!
i enjoy the rare times when i see one on the road.
along the lines of pointless-horsepower/torque,
i saw a Jeep V8 SXT grand-cherokee a couple days ago.
I LIKE! same with VW 2-a-reg V10 TDI.
 
also i enjoyed the one time i saw an "international CXT" on the highway - i gave the driver a thumbs-up to contrast with that other finger he probably saw from other drivers.
at least the CXT is a diesel!
 
i don't think i'll ever enjoy any of these super-powered SUV/pickups enough to buy one however! i'm actually a truck-hater. trucks only interest me when they have crazy-powerful or diesel engine and/or at least 7-adult-passenger-capacity.

#1572 of 1574 Re: more power Scotty / the treehuggers canna take much more sir! [elias] by kernick

Jul 26, 2006 (5:48 pm)

Replying to: elias (Jul 26, 2006 12:45 pm)
I think one of the best group of judges of whether a car is fun (and that's a very, very important aspect of life) is kids. Why? They have none of these boring, practical mindsets that some adults seem to get. Go ask some kids say age 7 - 14 what are the coolest cars, and you'll get the best answers. Kids will like powerful/fast/all-terrain/sleek vehicles. Or in some cases just quirky.
 
When I was a kid I loved VW Beetles, Roadrunners, Chargers, Vettes, Trans Ams, Mustangs, and in racing Porsches and Chapparals.
 
And the Viper will be a car kids love. The wind, noise, acceleration can be like a roller coaster, and most of us love roller coasters. And for adults, there is a definite advantage in driving an SRT10 over a Camry if trying to attract the opposite sex.
 
And I sure hope more people realize the speed limits in this country are set based on the capabilities of a 1960's garbage truck being able to negotiate the road safely. People are driving 10-20 mph over the limits regularly now and there has been no increase in fatalities per million miles driven. The only reason I see for the current speed limits is so police can collect revenue for the government, and more onerously - have a reason to pull over any car or people THEY DON"T LIKE THE LOOKS OF. Low speed limits are a great excuse for Big Brother to check you out.

#1573 of 1574 Re: more power Scotty / the treehuggers canna take much more sir! [kernick] by kdshapiro

Jul 30, 2006 (7:37 am)

Replying to: kernick (Jul 26, 2006 5:48 pm)
"They have none of these boring, practical mindsets that some adults seem to get. Go ask some kids say age 7 - 14 what are the coolest cars"
 
You are right, and until the kids drive and pay for their own gas they have no clue. Now that my kids drive and pay for their gas, they have a totally different mindset about what is hot and what is expensive. They were even thinking about selling their SUV to get a 4 cyl car.
 
/ot Thankfully the police are out there collecting revenue from speeding tickets. My property taxes went down because of the additional revenue from speeding tickets. Speeders keep up the good work.

#1574 of 1574 Re: more power Scotty / the treehuggers canna take much more sir! [kdshapiro] by vchiu

Feb 06, 2007 (10:37 pm)

Replying to: kdshapiro (Jul 30, 2006 7:37 am)
quote :/ot Thankfully the police are out there collecting revenue from speeding tickets. My property taxes went down because of the additional revenue from speeding tickets. Speeders keep up the good work.
 
Well if the police issued tickets for tailgating/ phoning+driving / Lane discipline / alcohol / drugs+driving as frantically as for speeding, I am pretty sure your local taxes could even disappear. A little considered side effect would be a real drop of road casualties....
But what the heck : isn't it easier to collect money with a politically correct radar gun than anything else?

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