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#24 of 33 Re: Ward’s Names 10 Best Engines for 2006 [rockylee] by nvbanker

Jun 10, 2007 (3:16 pm)

Replying to: rockylee (Dec 10, 2005 10:39 pm)
Northstar is the best engine in the world in my opinion.
 
In the world, Gracie? It may have been in that lofty realm when it was brought out, Rocky, but it hasn't been improved much since then, and lots of engines have come out since that eclipse the Northstar's tech and performance. Plus, it has been plagued with head gasket failures, carbonization, and do you know where the starter is on that thing?

#25 of 33 Re: GM has the best engines overall..... [rockylee] by nippononly

Aug 30, 2007 (7:55 am)

Replying to: rockylee (May 05, 2006 12:53 am)
In your whole list you don't have one engine that makes more than, say, 25 mpg around town in any current application. And that's the EcoTec, the rest make around 20 mpg or less.
 
I vote for the little Toyota 1.5 - average or lower emissions in all its applications for the last 15 years, SUPERLATIVE fuel economy, despite its low cost it makes more than 70 hp/liter (something the Northstar doesn't do), and if you do the oil changes, the little bugger will go 250K miles without a hitch every time...
 
Of course, that's just a personal fave, I doubt it is particularly technically innovative beyond incorporating variable valve technology at such a low cost, but the results are pretty good!
 
An engine that intrigues me, but one which I guess we won't see for a while around here, is the new VW 1.4 twincharger.
 
edit....oh, hey these are the 2007 winners by the way:
 
http://wardsauto.com/reports/2007/tenbest/
 
The new 3.5 from both Toyota and Ford made the list this time, I doubt VW's twincharger was eligible, but the 2.0T from VW/Audi made the list along with the Mazda 2.3 turbo and Nissan's famed VQ 3.5. Nothing from GM or Honda made the list at all...

#26 of 33 Wards summed it up perfectly by anythngbutgm

Aug 30, 2007 (8:33 am)

The Toyota 3.5 deserves a manual gearbox. The engine is fantastic. It revs quickly, smoothly and will bump the redline if you get on it (At least that is what I found in the RAV4). Plus, I've read up to 27mpg in the RAV is achievable if you lay off the throttle. The Camry and ES will do even better than that.
Great engine.
 
Good to see Chrysler and Ford on the list. The little Mazda mill as well. The rest were not surprising at all...

#27 of 33 Re Best Engines by hpmctorque

Aug 30, 2007 (10:09 am)

I believe Honda deserves to be on the list. Maybe for '08, at least with the variable displacement 3.5 V6.

#28 of 33 The ULTRA V8 the Northstar replacement will be........... by rockylee

Sep 24, 2007 (7:47 am)

The ULTRA "High Feature" V8 from GM, will be the best engine ever made.
 
-Rocky

#29 of 33 Re: The ULTRA V8 the Northstar replacement will be........... [rockylee] by british_rover

Sep 24, 2007 (8:21 am)

Replying to: rockylee (Sep 24, 2007 7:47 am)
Good thing you got that wink there cause I seriously doubt it.
 
Are they going back to pushrods for it?

#30 of 33 Re: The ULTRA V8 the Northstar replacement will be........... [british_rover] by rockylee

Sep 24, 2007 (8:22 am)

Replying to: british_rover (Sep 24, 2007 8:21 am)
Are they going back to pushrods for it?
 
ROTF !!!! You can't be serious.
 
-Rocky

#31 of 33 Re: The ULTRA V8 the Northstar replacement will be........... [rockylee] by british_rover

Sep 24, 2007 (8:25 am)

Replying to: rockylee (Sep 24, 2007 8:22 am)
Well GM does seem to be the company of the pushrod, by the pushrod, for the pushrod.
 
GM Engineers: You will take our pushrods from us when you pry them out of our cold, dead fingers.

#32 of 33 Re: The ULTRA V8 the Northstar replacement will be........... [british_rover] by nippononly

Sep 24, 2007 (10:07 am)

Replying to: british_rover (Sep 24, 2007 8:25 am)
Actually I think that would be the GM ACCOUNTING department with that motto. Pushrods are nice and low-cost, low-cost, low-cost.

#33 of 33 Re: The ULTRA V8 the Northstar replacement will be........... [nippononly] by british_rover

Sep 24, 2007 (10:11 am)

Replying to: nippononly (Sep 24, 2007 10:07 am)
I wonder how much it cost to get variable valve timing to work with pushrods on the Escalade? Almost seems like it would have been cheaper to design a modern Overhead came engine with Variable Valve timing to begin with.

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