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Re: Lease on 2007 Commander [tleray] by triesen
Jan 08, 2007 (6:55 am)
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Replying to: tleray (Jan 08, 2007 6:23 am)

Here is how leasing works:
 
Essentially, your total payments should cover the amount the vehicle depreciates over the life of the lease, plus taxes, plus an interest payment for the use of the vehicle (known as a money factor - you can convert any money factor into an interest rate by multiplying the money factor which looks something like .000365 times 2400. The money should be equivalent to prevailing interest rates for buying). The amount the vehicle is worth at the end of the lease is known as the residual value. The residual is higher for a 24 month lease than it is for 39 month lease. I believe I was recently told that the Chrysler residual on a 2007 Commander for a 24 month lease is .52 or 52% of the MSRP.
 
The longer you lease the vehicle, the more it depreciates and hence, the more you pay overall.
 
Sales tax is calculated based on the purchase price and you pay for these in increments along with your lease payment each month (i.e., it would be incorporated in the $487/month).
 
So, the price after the $2500 discount is $32165. Take out your trade in of $2700 ($17500-14800) and the price is $29465. Your payments of $487 per month for 39 months total $18993. That means the residual value is $10472 or 30% of the MSRP. This sounds about right for such a lengthy lease. If you shorten the lease to say 24, 27, or 36 months, your payment will be lower since more of the value of the vehicle will be left over (higher residual).
 
Other notes:
 
- Mileage: the higher the miles you purchase, the lower the residual. Consider the mileage you buy in terms of the vehicle's expected daily drive. For example, 12,000 miles is only 32 miles per day for a month. If you don't use the miles at the end of the lease, they do not refund anything for the unused portion. If you go over the limit, what you pay is something like .15 per mile. So, let's say you go over by 10,000 miles, you'll owe $1500. For most people, that's a lot of $$$. However, if, at the end of the lease, you release with the same OEM (Chrysler in this case), they may forgive this little oversight (they did for me on a Dodge Durango). Leasing is the best option, relative to buying a new car, if you stay under the mileage limit.
 
- Term: you may want to rethink the 39 month lease. I suspect you may want something new again after only 24 or 27 months. Its nice to have a new vehicle every two years and the only money out of pocket to you is the sales tax.
 
- Down payment: again, keep it $0 or very small. You'd lose that money in the event the vehicle is totaled in a accident.
 
- Point of reference: I have a 2004 Dodge Durango lease. The terms were 36 months with 12,000 miles and the price was $32000. I put $2500 down and my monthly payment is $393 per month. I believe the interest rates (money factors) are slightly higher for Commanders since Chrysler deems them a near-luxury vehicle.
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Re: Lease on 2007 Commander [triesen] by tleray
Jan 08, 2007 (7:07 am)
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Replying to: triesen (Jan 08, 2007 6:55 am)

One more thing, based on what you said above, on the quote for the lease they show the residual as $16292.55 not $10472 as you stated? Why is their's different from what you are calculating? Again here is what they gave me:
 
MSRP $34665
15K miles
Trade In : $17500
Owe : $14800
No cash down
39 month lease
38 payments $487
Residual $16292.55
.15 mile overage charge
includes sales tax
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Re: Is this a good 2006 Commander deal? [happymom2] by Car_man HOST
Jan 16, 2007 (3:02 am)
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Replying to: happymom2 (Dec 08, 2006 3:38 pm)

You're welcome, happymom2. $700 under dealer invoice minus the dealer cash is a very good deal on this truck. The only thing that I would do before committing to lease the 2006 model would be to get a quote on a similar lease of a 2007 model for the sake of comparison. The '07 Commander's lease program is so much more attractive than the '06 model's program right now it would be interesting to see what the difference in their monthly payments are.
 
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Re: Commander Limited 2007 [jdpancer] by Car_man HOST
Jan 16, 2007 (3:03 am)
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Replying to: jdpancer (Dec 16, 2006 3:06 pm)

Hey jdpancer. I need this truck's MSRP to calculate a lease payment on it for you. Let me know what it is and I'll be glad to crunch some numbers for you.
 
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Re: EC Price Lease on '06 Commander [kellim] by Car_man HOST
Jan 16, 2007 (3:07 am)
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Replying to: kellim (Dec 19, 2006 1:47 pm)

Thanks kellim. I'm glad that you find my posts so helpful. The selling price that you were quoted for this truck is very attractive. It's always nice to be able to purchase one's vehicle through a manufacturer's employee purchase program . I doubt that you will be able to get it for less than this. DaimlerChrysler is no longer providing lease support on 2006 models. As a result, if you were to lease one through Chrysler Financial right now, you would have to use its standard lease program. Chrysler Financial's current buy rate standard lease money factor is .00332 for consumers who qualify for its top credit tier. Make sure that this is the money factor that is being used to calculate your truck's lease payment and you're in business.
 
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Re: 2007 Commander sport 4wd w/ U26 pack [jason16fsh] by Car_man HOST
Jan 16, 2007 (3:10 am)
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Replying to: jason16fsh (Dec 19, 2006 5:44 pm)

Hello jason16fsh. I would be happy to estimate what this truck's monthly payment should be for you. Unfortunately, in order for me to do so I need you to provide me with its full MSRP. Let me know and I'll crunch some numbers.
 
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Re: Jeep Commander: Lease Questions [triesen] by Car_man HOST
Jan 16, 2007 (3:14 am)
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Replying to: triesen (Dec 28, 2006 8:20 pm)

Hi triesen. this truck's lease program will vary depending upon the length of the lease that you want and its mileage allowance. For now I will assume that you are interested in a 36 month lease with 15,000 miles per year. Let me know if you want something different. Chrysler Financial's current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2007 Jeep Commander Limited 2WD with the 5.7L Hemi engine and with 15,000 miles per year are .00185 and 50%, respectively. When negotiating your lease on this truck, make sure to take the $2,500 lease cash that is currently available on it into account. It will help you to negotiate an attractive capitalized cost.
 
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Re: Lease on 2007 Commander [tleray] by Car_man HOST
Jan 16, 2007 (3:16 am)
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Replying to: tleray (Jan 07, 2007 1:55 pm)

Hi tleray. You never mentioned the selling price of the Commander that you are interested in leasing. This is an important number for you as a consumer to know for two reasons. First, the selling prices of leased vehicles can be negotiated, just as if you were paying cash for them. Without knowing the price of the truck that you want to lease you don't know how good a price you are getting it for. The second reason is that one needs the selling price of a vehicle that they want to lease is that it is necessary to calculate its lease payment. I would be more than happy to give you my opinion of this deal if you let me know what its selling price is.
 
For now I can tell you that $4,000 is too much money to put down when leasing. Consumers can and should lease any vehicle that they are interested in without making any sort of capitalized cost reduction. I say this because if your leased vehicle is totaled in an accident or stolen and never recovered, your down payment essentially disappears.
 
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Re: Lease on 2007 Commander [tleray] by Car_man HOST
Jan 16, 2007 (3:23 am)
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Replying to: tleray (Jan 08, 2007 6:23 am)

Hi tleray. Not only should the dealer that you are working with be reducing your truck's selling price by the $2,500 lease cash, they should be providing you with an additional dealer discount on top of it. The selling prices of leased vehicles are negotiable, just as if you were paying cash for or financing them. You should be able to negotiate a selling price for this truck that is $500 to $1,000 over dealer invoice, have the $2,500 lease cash subtracted from that, and then have the dealer work up your monthly payment.
 
I see that you are considering trading in your current vehicle when you lease your new Commander. There's nothing wrong with trading in a car or truck when leasing a new one, but it would be in your best interest to have the dealer that you are working with cut you a check for your trade rather than using the proceeds from it as a down payment for your lease. I always advise consumers not to make large down payments on leased vehicles. Those who make them risk losing them if their leased vehicle is totaled in an accident or stolen and never recovered.
 
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Re: Lease on 2007 Commander [tleray] by triesen
Jan 16, 2007 (6:00 am)
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Replying to: tleray (Jan 08, 2007 7:07 am)

Hi - sorry for the delay. Their residual is higher (and I'm sure it is the correct value) because I was only estimating fo the money factor and residual percentage they gave you). I'd follow the guidance of the forum host for the best information.

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