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2006 Car & Driver "10 Best" List Response - READ ONLY

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Re: 2006 Car & Driver "10 Best" List Response [callmedrfill] by 1racefan
Dec 08, 2005 (9:21 am)

Replying to: callmedrfill (Dec 08, 2005 9:16 am)

If the RX-8 is the best sports coupe, why isn't it selling well?
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Good question! by callmedrfill
Dec 08, 2005 (9:35 am)
I would certainly test drive it, if I were in da market for a sports coupe.
 
  I think the power disparity for Auto tranny buyers hurts. General power/torque vs. it competition maybe the real problem. Around town, this car may not be as good as the torquey Z, but at 8/10's and above, it's ability is likely higher, and it has more utility.
 
  C&D tested the 350Z against it, and picked it better, so at least they are consistent on that one.
 
  This is not always the case with C&D!
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Re: 2006 Car & Driver "10 Best" List Response [1racefan] by 210delray
Dec 08, 2005 (9:36 am)

Replying to: 1racefan (Dec 08, 2005 9:21 am)

Let me get this straight:
 
Only ONE BMW and TWO Honda/Acuras?
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best in segment by nippononly
Dec 08, 2005 (9:43 am)
isn't always best-selling. I present as evidence the Toyota Camry, best-selling family sedan, and a very competent vehicle, but not the one I would pick, and so say all the Accord buyers too!
 
The RX-8 has the unique advantage of light weight. Yes, the rotary is not an easy engine to live with, but provides unparalleled fun in driving, and the handling of this lightweight is a class above the 350Z, which is a heavy heavy car (engineered on the larger midsize sedan and crossover platform). Not to mention the 350Z is close and claustrophobic inside, and Nissan never seems to have got the alignment/tire wear and noise problem fixed right. Even new owners still complain about this.
 
As for the A3, they call it best sport compact, but that is a broad category in this car's case. What really is its direct competitor, besides the upcoming VW twins Golf/GTI (not yet available for head-to-head comparisons) and the now-discontinued C230 coupe? Perhaps the WRX wagon, although while the performance is there, the interior is not, and the WRX is lower-priced as a consequence.
 
I have a special fondness for the RSX-S, but if you put that up against the A3, I would have to say the A3 is nicer in some respects. In base form the A3 will not handle as well as the RSX-S, but will be more responsive powerwise and have a nicer interior. Not to mention having proper room for four adults. I did like the A3 a lot when I drove it, almost bought one.
 
Funny thing is, I usually have at least ONE bone to pick with this list, usually more than one, but this year I think they hit it spot on.
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looks pretty good... by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Dec 08, 2005 (9:44 am)
I don't have any major beefs with that list at all except calling a Porsche a "luxury" sports car is rather silly---it's not. The luxury difference between the Acura and BMW makes more sense.
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I think by nippononly
Dec 08, 2005 (9:48 am)
the "luxury" reference with the Porsche is strictly due to price. You gotta be pretty well off to be commuting in a new Porsche.
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Surprised the Civic missed the boat by callmedrfill
Dec 08, 2005 (9:49 am)
Especially with the Si all hot and bothered!
 
  Not a fan of the current Z.
 
  A new Supra would take most of it's buyers away.
 
  Oh well.
 
  DrFill
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I am suprised... by 1racefan
Dec 08, 2005 (9:49 am)
That the New Civic SI didn't secure a spot.
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Re: looks pretty good... [Mr_Shiftright] by lemmer
Dec 08, 2005 (9:49 am)

Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Dec 08, 2005 9:44 am)

In my book, if a sports car has glass windows or a synchronized transmission, it is a luxury sports car.
 
Just kidding, but a new Porsche is pretty luxurious even though the "sports" part is its mission.
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Re: I am suprised... [1racefan] by nippononly
Dec 08, 2005 (9:53 am)

Replying to: 1racefan (Dec 08, 2005 9:49 am)

I would say that the Civic SI misses slightly when compared to the A3 the same way the RSX-S does: it is outclassed in interior (even though the SI is by no means shabby) and off-the-line performance, given the right-now torque of Audi's 2.0T DI at all engine speeds. Both the HOndas will have better handling than the base A3, but that means they only grab one category out of 3. (Price not being a factor in the 10Best list)

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